GERMANY HAS A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO AMERICANS WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP.
'Adolf Hitler was without a doubt the most notoriously evil and simultaneously powerful dictator to exist in recent memory, and as a result, his name is often used in political discourse as a way of comparing the negatives of an opponent with the atrocities committed by Hitler. Obviously, no one has come close to the nature of Hitler since the Nazi leader fell, and those comparisons between relatively normal politicians only serve to minimize the actions of Hitler while overstating the negatives of a political rival. However, Donald Trumps rise to power is strikingly similar to the rise of Hitler in the 1930s.
Now that Trump has officially won the Presidency, it is impossible to deny the waves of angry white people that carried him to such a position. Some believe Trump had such ardent support because many of his constituents merely disliked Hillary Clinton, but the truth is far scarier. Trump used many of the same tactics and rhetorical stylings that allowed Hitler to dazzle the German people before they realized the gravity of the threat.
https://twitter.com/CrappyCrapson/status/794567197041561600/photo/1
A recent Newsweek article pointed out the shocking ways in which Trump and Hitler were similar. In Trumps case, the idea that he could be the next Hitler is something that must be taken seriously, not only because of how Trump marginalizes and demeans entire groups of citizens, but because of his steadfast resolve that he and he alone can solve all the problems of the United States. Hitler did the exact same thing during his rise to power. He was an eloquent speaker, far more so than Trump, and he had the emotion of the German people behind him. By downplaying his experience and public policy leanings, he was able to amass incredible support for his personal character and nothing more. The German people didnt care what he was going to do because they were so wrapped up in his Hitlers fiery personality.'>>>
http://www.greenvillegazette.com/r/germany-has-a-powerful-message-to-americans-who-voted-for-trump-150302/
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)...always been repulsed by Trump's personality.
bdamomma
(63,919 posts)I only wish some Americans would understand it too.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the Populace is distracted by the Propagandist. Not paying attention my friends.
lapucelle
(18,308 posts)(led by the strategist/propagandist Goebbels) created legislative gridlock. The president, the other legislators, and the people were desperate for action and gave in to the demands that Hitler be named despite the fact that the Nazi party did not speak for a majority.
"What have we got to lose?" the people thought.
"We can control him," said the reassuring mainstream conservatives in power.
Sound familiar? Sound like a plan?
CincyDem
(6,385 posts)lapucelle
(18,308 posts)in the form of Bannon.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Very interesting film. Shows how the Nazi's slowly infiltrated German society and gradually took over the country.
We cannot allow this to happen here as We Are Not Germany!!
Just Say No!
catbyte
(34,442 posts)threatens to be us.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)The young man singing portends to be a blond haired blue-eyed young man of the squeaky clean sort. It has a certain appeal to certain persons around him.
As the camera pans around to others in the audience, it shows the faces that range from scratching their head in question to singing along happily to others that are screaming the words and are angry.
That particular clip of "Tomorrow Belongs To Me" is perhaps the most frightening scene except at the very end after the wedding is over and a twisted cross is now a common thing to be seen in The Cabaret. *eek*
And so it begins and if you don't think it can happen again, it will if it is allowed to as there is one too many persons (that I am personally avoiding like the plague!) that think this is a correct environment to live in. It is sick, plain sick and must be avoided at all costs!
Texin
(2,597 posts)The rethugs created six years - though it truthfully started the eve of President Obama's inauguration - of uninterrupted legislative gridlock by blocking every initiative proposed by the President and the Democratic party. When their attempts to delegitimize the President failed to prevent his reelection, they doubled down on their stranglehold on every legislative bill that just might have brought some relief to the rust belt and other blighted areas through infrastructure improvements that could have created a few needed jobs in those areas. At the same time, they stepped up their defamatory rhetoric and tRump saw an opportunity to seize the podium and now the presidency with bombastic promises of salvation that only "he alone" could bring about, steeped in hellbent nationalism, coupled with a staggeringly wide net of bigotry. tRump defined "the other" as the problem, along with the entrenched "swamp" dwellers he maintained he alone could destroy by "draining the swamp" and supplanting it with his brand of capitalistic militarism.
tRump has used the same tactics Hitler did to exploit the electorate, and he didn't need to create a political apparatus for it was already in place and waiting for a titular head to put it in total control. tRump is the mouthpiece, the megaphone for their movement and it's always been around. It's found its Hitler and he will be one of the beneficiaries of the programs that will blow through this land and sweep across the surface of the free world to further empower the wealthy and powerful, for there is no check on this going into the future. They control everything and every piece of legislations, every appointment, from the cabinet to the Supreme Court, will entrench this plutocratic agenda for the rest of my life. I have no remaining hope for the future.
hippywife
(22,767 posts)dearth of such movies in recent times to remind people what it looks like and how it creeps in.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)and at that particular time (and yes, I was quite alive and a young woman at the time) it seemed to be nothing more than something that happened many years ago and people were so pre-occupied with ending the war in Viet Nam that it almost blew right on by.
Strangely, the Master of Ceremonies for this film (Joel Grey) is Jewish and has been directly affected by the Holocaust and I read that he had to really struggle to find it within himself to do this film.
hippywife
(22,767 posts)as I too was a young woman at the time. Probably should make one about every 10 years.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Adolf Hitler and the Nazis waged a modern whirlwind campaign in 1930 unlike anything ever seen in Germany. Hitler traveled the country delivering dozens of major speeches, attending meetings, shaking hands, signing autographs, posing for pictures, and even kissing babies.
Joseph Goebbels brilliantly organized thousands of meetings, torchlight parades, plastered posters everywhere and printed millions of special edition Nazi newspapers.
Germany was in the grip of the Great Depression with a population suffering from poverty, misery, and uncertainty, amid increasing political instability.
For Hitler, the master speech maker, the long awaited opportunity to let loose his talents on the German people had arrived. He would find in this downtrodden people, an audience very willing to listen. In his speeches, Hitler offered the Germans what they needed most, encouragement. He gave them heaps of vague promises while avoiding the details. He used simple catchphrases, repeated over and over.
A typical campaign scene with Nazi posters on display next to the Center Party, Communists, Socialists and others. Below: Repeated propaganda marches became a cheap and effective form of publicity - sometimes leading to violence between rival political groups. Hörst Wessel, pictured at the front, was killed during such a brawl in 1930 and raised to the status of a martyr by Nazis via the "Hörst Wessel" banner anthem.
His campaign appearances were carefully staged events. Audiences were always kept waiting, deliberately letting the tension increase, only to be broken by solemn processions of Brownshirts with golden banners, blaring military music, and finally the appearance of Hitler amid shouts of "Heil!" The effect in a closed in hall with theatrical style lighting and decorations of swastikas was overwhelming and very catching.
Hitler began each speech in low, hesitating tones, gradually raising the pitch and volume of his voice then exploding in a climax of frenzied indignation. He combined this with carefully rehearsed hand gestures for maximum effect. He skillfully played on the emotions of the audience bringing the level of excitement higher and higher until the people wound up a wide-eyed, screaming, frenzied mass that surrendered to his will and looked upon him with pseudo-religious adoration.
Hitler offered something to everyone: work to the unemployed; prosperity to failed business people; profits to industry; expansion to the Army; social harmony and an end of class distinctions to idealistic young students; and restoration of German glory to those in despair. He promised to bring order amid chaos; a feeling of unity to all and the chance to belong. He would make Germany strong again; end payment of war reparations to the Allies; tear up the treaty of Versailles; stamp out corruption; keep down Marxism; and deal harshly with the Jews.
He appealed to all classes of Germans. The name of the Nazi Party itself was deliberately all inclusive the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
All of the Nazis, from Hitler, down to the leader of the smallest city block, worked tirelessly, relentlessly, to pound their message into the minds of the Germans.
On election day September 14, 1930, the Nazis received 6,371,000 votes over eighteen percent of the total and were thus entitled to 107 seats in the German Reichstag. It was a stunning victory for Hitler. Overnight, the Nazi Party went from the smallest to the second largest political party in Germany.
It propelled Hitler to solid national and international prestige and aroused the curiosity of the world press. He was besieged with interview requests. Foreign journalists wanted to know what did he mean tear up the Treaty of Versailles and end war reparations? and that Germany wasn't responsible for the First World War?
Gone was the Charlie Chaplin image of Hitler as the laughable fanatic behind the Beer Hall Putsch. The beer hall revolutionary had been replaced by the skilled manipulator of the masses.
On October 13, 1930, dressed in their brown shirts, the elected Nazi deputies marched in unison into the Reichstag and took their seats. When the roll-call was taken, each one shouted, "Present! Heil Hitler!"
They had no intention of cooperating with the democratic government, knowing it was to their advantage to let things get worse in Germany, thus increasing the appeal of Hitler to an ever more miserable people.
Nazi storm troopers dressed in civilian clothes celebrated their electoral victory by smashing the windows of Jewish shops, restaurants and department stores, an indication of things to come.
Now, for the floundering German democracy, the clock was ticking and time was on Hitler's side.
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raccoon
(31,119 posts)pbmus
(12,422 posts)Hitler offered something to everyone: work to the unemployed; prosperity to failed business people; profits to industry; expansion to the Army; social harmony and an end of class distinctions to idealistic young students; and restoration of German glory to those in despair. He promised to bring order amid chaos; a feeling of unity to all and the chance to belong. He would make Germany strong again; end payment of war reparations to the Allies; tear up the treaty of Versailles; stamp out corruption; keep down Marxism; and deal harshly with the Jews.
masmdu
(2,536 posts)...was presented to the world in the 1940 release of The Great Dictator.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)No Fascist USA!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Leontius
(2,270 posts)Trump is not Hitler, the US is not Germany of the 20s and 30s.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)This is the New Nazi Party of AmeriKKKa. You better open your eyes. It's the grown folks that know what is in store for us. Wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)But history has shown how authoritarians can come to power in erstwhile democracies, and we ignore (or ridicule) those lessons at our own peril.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)however the sky is not falling, water is still wet and the brown shirts aren't marching. This overblown rhetoric from some is making them look like clowns. Trump is not Hitler the Congress is not the Reichstag. The lesson is a lot of people are fed up with the bullshit and we need to listen and learn where we have lost their confidence and trust and what we must offer them to regain it. That does not mean losing the core principles of a liberal society but it does mean crafting policies that don't force people to reject them if they can't accept it as an all or nothing package.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Nothing...
And after the people saw they got nothing from their government, they voted for the guy who said he would give them everything.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Trump picked a global warming denier to head the EPA transition team, and I do not trust this impetuous vindictive bully with the nuclear codes. With a fully empowered right wing congress chomping at the bit, they are very likely to do lasting damage that will be injurious or fatal to a lot of people.
It is more prudent to overestimate this threat than to underestimate it.
By all means let's take a long hard look at the Democratic Party, what it's done wrong and what it can do better. Let's also stay in the fact-based world and not discredit ourselves with hyperbole. However, I think it would be a grave mistake to normalize Donald Trump. He is a dangerous demagogue who will be as big of a tyrant as his fanatical supporters and his own party let him be.
Our last line of defense is the courts. Hopefully that will be sufficient to draw lines that must not be crossed.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)I might agree with you...
Leontius
(2,270 posts)Trump is a crude egotistical bully and will do some damage to the progress that has been made but remember this we survived reagan and he was really an evil bastard and we survived bush so we will get through this.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Stupid fucks........
heaven05
(18,124 posts)a fucking nazi from the beginning. I expect him to be just what he and the New Nazi Party of AmeriKKKa expect. A racist, fascist POS fooling some of the people but not all the people.
cachukis
(2,267 posts)Felt as if the country could elect a shrub, we were doomed. My only hope is that this might resemble Pickett's Charge; a futile assault on the way things will be. For the first time in my political perspective I sense predicament for a time. Will deal with the realities, but hope there is something left on the other side.