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elleng

(131,085 posts)
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:53 AM Feb 2017

Trump is getting payments from foreign governments. We have no idea what they are.

'In the middle of the 17th century, King Charles II of England took a secret pension from the French King Louis XIV. He agreed to a closer relationship, including a treaty that wasn’t clearly in England’s best interest. The precise content of the secret agreement wasn’t revealed for more than 100 years.

Today, 350 years later, the president of the United States is receiving payments from foreign countries. The money comes to President Trump by way of his companies, although the details and scope of his profits are secret; he refused to disclose his tax returns. After the election, Trump had several months to move toward liquidation and putting his assets in a truly blind trust. He has chosen, instead, to keep his ownership interests in his businesses, turning over operating decisions to his children but remaining an owner. His decision threatens the integrity of American democracy and national security, and it should ring alarm bells for all citizens, regardless of political party.

Trump’s choice violates one of the most overlooked but important sections of the U.S. Constitution, the foreign emoluments clause, which was framed to avoid problems of split loyalty such as that posed by Charles II. As a law professor, I began exploring the clause in 2009 while examining the framers’ near-obsession with protecting against corruption. The clause represented a deliberate break from European traditions, where financial relationships between a country’s representatives and other governments were common. And it epitomized “the particularly demanding notion of corruption” held by our framers.

I never expected the clause to be litigated: Presidents and federal officials have gone out of their way to avoid violating it. Until now. But Trump’s blatant violation of the clause is a violation of our fundamental document and our fundamental principles.

The framers were trained to be wary of how human nature can be tempted, and of international incentives to tempt. As George Washington said later, “Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder.” Our Constitution was written in the hot summer of 1787 in Philadelphia, but the convention was haunted by recent European failures and the long-ago corruption of Rome. Secret money from foreign countries was a repeat topic, with the framers wary of the “melancholy picture” of foreign intrusions and intrigues. The British experience with Charles II was a warning that even heads of state could be influenced by foreign powers.

The framers understood that humans are inclined to look more favorably upon those who are responsible for their wealth. In private affairs, warmth toward someone who has given a gift, or with whom one has a good business relationship, is a positive emotion that enables human connection. But in public affairs, that sometimes-unconscious influence can be insidious. The framers had also seen how George III used his power to create a side employment relationship with parliamentarians he wanted to influence.

So the Constitution includes more than a dozen anti-corruption provisions, several of which are targeted specifically to protecting against foreign influence. For instance, only natural-born citizens can be president, foreigners are not allowed to hold federal office and a long residential period is required so candidates would not be mere tools of wealthy foreign powers.'>>>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/26/trump-is-getting-payments-from-foreign-governments-we-have-no-idea-what-they-are/?postshare=2811486754893934&tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.04ee718de38d

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Trump is getting payments from foreign governments. We have no idea what they are. (Original Post) elleng Feb 2017 OP
None of your business! HassleCat Feb 2017 #1
Excellent article. herding cats Feb 2017 #2
If our corrupt government won't do the right thing, perhaps our historical allies can step in MADem Feb 2017 #3
I certainly hope so, elleng Feb 2017 #4

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. If our corrupt government won't do the right thing, perhaps our historical allies can step in
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:42 AM
Feb 2017

and do for us what an uncorrupted government would do. We've done some favors in the past for GE, FR, UK, etc., maybe they'll drop a few priceless loads of data and blame someone else for it.

We know we all spy on one another--Hollande said as much...it's also why Angela only pretended to be really REALLY pissed when her cellphone was tapped.

elleng

(131,085 posts)
4. I certainly hope so,
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:45 AM
Feb 2017

and rather suspect the international community will precipitate the end of trump's 'reign.'

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