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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 06:59 PM Mar 2012

Dennis Kucinich and “wackiness” By Glenn Greenwald




Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Credit: AP Photo/Harry Hamburg, File)

The Prospect article also praises as “great” a snide, derisive Washington Post piece which purports to “highlight some of the particularly bizarre facts about” Kucinich. Among those is the fact that “he introduced impeachment articles against former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Cheney for their roles in the Iraq war” and “proposed a Cabinet-level agency devoted to peace.” What a weirdo and a loser. Even more predictably, a team of four interns at The New Republic – the magazine that spent years crusading for the attack on Iraq, smearing Israel critics as anti-Semites, and defining its editorial mission as re-making the Democratic Party in the image of Joe Lieberman – denounced the anti-war Kucinich as “ludicrous,” citing most of the same accusations as the Prospect and the Post.

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So let’s recap the state of mental health in establishment Democratic circles: the President who claims (and exercises) the power to target American citizens for execution-by-CIA in total secrecy and with no charges — as well as those who dutifully follow him — are sane, sober and Serious, meriting great respect. By contrast, one of the very few members of Congress who stands up and vehemently objects to this most radical power — “The idea that the United States has the ability to summarily execute a US citizen ought to send chills racing up and down the spines of every person of conscience” — is a total wackjob, meriting patronizing mockery.


Meanwhile, the crazy wacko, Dennis Kucinich, has been an outspoken opponent of all of that. In a rational world, that would make him sane and those he opposed crazy. But in the world of Washington’s political and media class, it’s Kucinich who is the crazy one and those who did all of that are sane and Serious. Put another way, the chickenhawk warmongers at The New Republic are normal, while the anti-war Kucinich is “among the wackiest.”

One criticism of Kucinich that is not unreasonable per se is that he has no real legislative accomplishments to show for his 9 terms in Congress. Citing that criticism, Andrew Sullivan this week branded him “A Forgettable Ideologue”and quoted from an anti-Kucinich post in The New Yorker (yet another Serious, Sane magazine that played a key role in fueling the flames of war against Iraq). The New Yorker post is entitled “Why Kucinich Won’t be Missed,” in which Alex Koppelman argues:

I find this unpersuasive on multiple levels. For one, enacting legislation is not the only way to have an important impact on our political culture. Shining light on otherwise-ignored issues, advocating rarely-heard political positions, using one’s platform to highlight the corruption of those in power and to challenge their warped belief systems are all vitally important functions. Advocacy of that sort may not produce immediate, tangible successes, but it is a prerequisite for changing prevailing political mores and persuading citizens to think differently. “Talking a lot” is a synonym for persuasion, advocacy and debate. It’s far from “doing very little.” Those are all critical steps in changing a political system. It’s true that Kucinich cannot point to any law he passed that, say, guts the National Security State or corporate-lobbyist control over Washington, but that hardly means his work was inconsequential. Those types of changes often take years, even decades, of advocacy, and urgently need those with public platforms to amplify the underlying views to change how citizens think.

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http://www.salon.com/2012/03/10/dennis_kucinich_and_wackiness/singleton/

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Dennis Kucinich and “wackiness” By Glenn Greenwald (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Mar 2012 OP
the primarily yardstick of wackiness should be what people said before the Iraq War yurbud Mar 2012 #1
Big K&R Martin Eden Mar 2012 #2
"wackiness" == "talks about taboo subjects" bemildred Mar 2012 #3
Wacky = putting principles above party and personality _ed_ Mar 2012 #4
I once read a story about how the State gave the people a choice… Larry Ogg Mar 2012 #5
In crazy times, the truth gets called "wacky" dougolat Mar 2012 #6
K&R. Well said. Great article. Overseas Mar 2012 #7
Good stuff. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #8
“proposed a Cabinet-level agency devoted to peace.” G_j Mar 2012 #9

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
1. the primarily yardstick of wackiness should be what people said before the Iraq War
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 08:12 PM
Mar 2012

and by that standard, Dennis is one of a handful that are sane (or more accurately, not corrupt).

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. "wackiness" == "talks about taboo subjects"
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:39 AM
Mar 2012

Like war mongering and meddling overseas and lickspittle arse licking of the very wealthy.

Chomsky is another guy that they call names because he talks about inconvenient facts.

Larry Ogg

(1,474 posts)
5. I once read a story about how the State gave the people a choice…
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:25 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sun Mar 11, 2012, 02:40 PM - Edit history (1)

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They could stop the execution and set free a man of tremendous conscience, as he was guilty of doing only good deeds.

Or they could set free a psychopath, who not only had no conscience at all, he was anti-conscience, and was guilty of destroying many innocent lives.

And with the counsel of church leaders, they chose to set free the psychopath and demanded that the man of conscience be destroyed.
<snip>

With all its nuances the above story has been told and played many times throughout human history, it's a story about how people are misled to favor those who are evil over those who are good, and it’s a good metaphor for what goes on in American politics today.

Conservatives, while claiming the moral high ground, are constantly going out of their way, to not only lower the bar of moral decency, but to change very meaning of right and wrong, good and evil.

They are quick too condemn the good works, and voices of liberals, i.e. people of conscience, and they give a free pass to the worst kind of liar’s, cheaters and plunders.

And with the blessing of right wing religion, those who are the most guilty of destroying many lives, now fly around in corporate jets, like heroes.

If only the people could see them for what they really are, they would see nothing mystical, magical, or honorable, but they would see psychopaths for what they really are, and they would see them as being the anti-conscience.

Dennis Kucinich is a man of conscience, he will be missed, and I hope he finds a way to make a difference.

dougolat

(716 posts)
6. In crazy times, the truth gets called "wacky"
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:25 PM
Mar 2012

last election, it was Alan Grayson who got manipulated out of office, and we are all hurting.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
9. “proposed a Cabinet-level agency devoted to peace.”
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:29 PM
Mar 2012
http://news.change.org/stories/the-u-s-department-of-peace-a-brief-history-and-bright-future

1783: George Washington called for a proper “Peace Establishment”.

1792: Benjamin Banneker and Dr. Benjamin Rush call for an “Office of Peace” with peace education in all schools.

1925: Carrie Chapman Catt of the National League of Women Voters at the “Cause and Cure for War” Conference, publicly suggested, a Cabinet level “Department of Peace" and “Secretary of Peace” be established.

1926/1927: Kirby Page author of "A National Peace Department" wrote, published and distributed the first proposal for a Cabinet level "Department of Peace" and "Secretary of Peace".

1936: Dr. Frederick Kettner publishes essay “The Need for a Secretary of Peace”.

1943 -1968: Eighty-eight Congressional bills are introduced calling for a Department of Peace in the House or Senate.

1961: President John F. Kennedy launches the Peace Corps.

1969: Senator Vance Hartke (IL), and Rep. Seymour Halpern (NY), introduce a Bill for a Department of Peace with a Peace Academy.

1984: The U.S. Institute of Peace created (its beautiful new building is currently under construction).

1993: President Bill Clinton launches Americorps.

2001, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2009: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH), and Sen. Mark Dayton (MN) introduce Bills calling for a Department of Peace (House-only since Sen. Dayton's announced retirement in 2005).

2010: The U.S. Department of Peace is named in Change.org's "Ideas for Change in America."



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http://www.betterworld.net/quotes/peacedepartment-quotes.htm

* "It is clear that military force and our policy of preemption are alone insufficient to make us safe. But help is on the way. Legislation has been proposed to create a US Department of Peace. In the propsed Department of Peace it would organize our present system into one conscious effort to improve humanity in achieving peace, where true safety lies."
-- Walter Cronkite

* On the whole our armed services have been doing pretty well in the way of keeping us defended, but I hope our State Department will remember that it is really the department of achieving peace.
-- Eleanor Roosevelt

* As the War-Office of the United States was established in the time of peace, it is equally reasonable that a Peace-Office should be established in the time of war. -- Benjamin Rush

* Citizens across the United States are now uniting in a great cause to establish a Department of Peace, seeking nothing less than the transformation of our society, to make non-violence an organizing principle, to make war archaic through creating a paradigm shift in our culture for human development, for economic and political justice and for violence control.
-- Dennis Kucinich
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