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Ptah

(33,037 posts)
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:31 PM Aug 2017

In Montana, Days of Smoke and Ash





BIGFORK, Mont. — I guess we should consider ourselves lucky. Folks down on Rock Creek have been praying for rain (sans lightning, of course) and hoping that the fire lines hold. Missoula is surrounded by wildfires, to the point that it really doesn’t matter which way the wind blows. North, east, south or west, the city’s population is still sucking smoke.

The little town of Seeley Lake, which is due south of us on Highway 83, remains under an evacuation warning. There’s a new fire up the road toward Eureka, and it’s apparently blowing up as I type these words. If there’s solace to be had, I suppose we can find it in not having flames raging in our backyard.

Welcome to Montana, where our famous trout streams run low and warm in August and the smoke turns our cloudless, robin’s-egg-blue skies the muted gray of old campfire ash.

I was supposed to fish the Flathead River with a friend this week, and while we may still get out and float the stretch near Columbia Falls, I can’t say that I’m all that excited by the opportunity. Sure, it’s an awfully pretty piece of water, but it loses some of its allure when you have a hard time seeing the mountains for the smoke. Nor does it help when every particulate-filled breath is a reminder of the unrelenting heat, and the lack of moisture, and the prevalence, both here and all over these vast Western United States, of huge wildfires working their way through our desiccated forests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/montana-heat-fires.html
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In Montana, Days of Smoke and Ash (Original Post) Ptah Aug 2017 OP
Our skies grayish blue brown MFM008 Aug 2017 #1
Dunno where you are. but my kid in Bellingham, Wash. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #2
Near Tacoma MFM008 Aug 2017 #6
Did not realize it came down that far.. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #10
Yeah, it has fostered some weird feelings around the Two-Five-Three. Aristus Aug 2017 #13
No sympathy NCDem777 Aug 2017 #3
What's wrong with you? Ptah Aug 2017 #4
Did they refuse FEMA's assistance or Federal agencies in general ? BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #5
Who is "They" that have been bitching???? dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #11
Chinese Hoaxters Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #7
My husband and I hope BlueMTexpat Aug 2017 #8
Politics aren't really needed in this thread. JayhawkSD Aug 2017 #9
Damn, China, that's some hoax! hatrack Aug 2017 #12

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
1. Our skies grayish blue brown
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:34 PM
Aug 2017

In day and gray red hued at night. 90 degree heat and smoke from BC fires.

Welcome to the new normal.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. Dunno where you are. but my kid in Bellingham, Wash.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 02:52 PM
Aug 2017

says he's been seeing red sun, red moon, smoke and even ash up there, a few miles below the Canadian border.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
13. Yeah, it has fostered some weird feelings around the Two-Five-Three.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:20 AM
Aug 2017

A strange, festive holiday atmosphere, with people posting pics of reddish sunrises, gorgeous sunsets, ominous red moons, etc, combined with anxiety and concern for the Canadian firefighters and a hope that it will be over soon.

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
3. No sympathy
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:12 PM
Aug 2017

FEMA said they won't help them and now they're bitching. They've been bitching about the mere existence of the Federal government for years.

Now they see what life is like without one.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
5. Did they refuse FEMA's assistance or Federal agencies in general ?
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

Or is that how they vote in elections?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. Who is "They" that have been bitching????
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:24 PM
Aug 2017

And what does FEMA have to do with all the smoke that people in the West are choking on?
The fires and smoke are from CANADA...how is FEMA supposed to help about that?

Show me who asked for FEMA help about the smoke.

FEMA's job is to step in AFTER a disaster, and help people. Not during one.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
8. My husband and I hope
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:52 AM
Aug 2017

to visit family in MT in mid-September - assuming that there is still anything left.

This site provides excellent information - not only for Montana - but this is currently the information for Montana: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/state/maps/27/

We appreciate all the firefighters and their support staff enormously. They are true heroes, and primarily unsung.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
9. Politics aren't really needed in this thread.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:48 AM
Aug 2017

But I do feel somewhat embarrassed for my county, San Diego, which has no county fire agency and cries for help from the north whenever we get hit with a big wildfire. In all fairness, though, we have no significant fires right now, and several hundred firefighters from our local agencies are up north helping out. We do not hesitate or stint when they ask us to lend a hand.

Still, while the local agencies coordinate extremely well and do an outstanding job, it is shameful that we have no county fire agency.

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