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underpants

(182,878 posts)
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:17 AM Aug 2017

Falsely accused of satanic horrors, a couple spent 21 years in prison. Now theyre owed millions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/08/24/accused-of-satanism-they-spent-21-years-in-prison-they-were-just-declared-innocent-and-were-paid-millions/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.75ff4f1942c7

The Kellers had been convicted of sexual assault in 1992. Children from their day-care center accused them — variously — of serving blood-laced Kool Aid; wearing white robes; cutting the heart out of a baby; flying children to Mexico to be raped by soldiers; using Satan’s arm as a paintbrush; burying children alive with animals; throwing them in a swimming pool with sharks; shooting them; and resurrecting them after they had been shot.

What began as a single accusation from a 3-year-old girl with known behavioral problems, Texas Monthly wrote, “escalated to monstrous proportions” after authorities closed the day care.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=

The Kellers kept pushing for public redemption. They were finally declared “actually innocent” by the Travis County district attorney in June, the newspaper wrote. That made them eligible for a state program that pays wrongfully convicted people $80,000 for each year they spent in prison — a very large cumulative sum, in the Kellers’ extraordinary case.


The Kellers were expected to pick up a check for $3.4 million this week — though maybe millions isn’t so much when stretched across two decades and the darkest fantasies of children.

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Falsely accused of satanic horrors, a couple spent 21 years in prison. Now theyre owed millions. (Original Post) underpants Aug 2017 OP
This is similar to New Jersey's Wee Care Nursery School false accusations of the 1980s. John1956PA Aug 2017 #1
Or the McMartin Case, started by just one alcoholic, mentally deranged mother Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #4
The timing of these are interesting underpants Aug 2017 #8
McMartin was the first Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #9
The numerous talk shows were often senationalist in nature Kittycow Aug 2017 #12
"Satan's arm as a paintbrush??" Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #2
A little-used but surprisingly good technique jberryhill Aug 2017 #6
Brilliant! eom chaplain_M Aug 2017 #14
And the jury in Austin never questioned fantastical crap like this: dalton99a Aug 2017 #3
yeah, WTF. progressoid Aug 2017 #5
Look at the crap about Podesta and Clinton in 2016 and how many gave it consideration ...a pizza lunasun Aug 2017 #11
An absolute travesty. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2017 #7
There was a wave of these witch hunts at that time . Absolutely sickening . I know folks still lunasun Aug 2017 #10
in the late 80's/early 90's, there was a pamphlet telling people how to identify satanists. niyad Aug 2017 #13
It's amazing to me how people used to get their word out. 3 industries. underpants Aug 2017 #15
Ah, there was nothing like a trip to the post office on the first day of Dead mail-order tickets jberryhill Aug 2017 #16
I'll have to ask him if he ordered tickets by mail underpants Aug 2017 #17
They deserve more that 3.4 million FiveGoodMen Aug 2017 #18
Texas elects judges underpants Aug 2017 #19
That's probably the answer (to my last question) FiveGoodMen Aug 2017 #20

John1956PA

(2,656 posts)
1. This is similar to New Jersey's Wee Care Nursery School false accusations of the 1980s.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:27 AM
Aug 2017

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wee_Care_Nursery_School_abuse_trial :

The Wee Care Nursery School, located in Maplewood, New Jersey, was the subject of a day care child abuse case that went to trial in the 1980s.

Employee Margaret Kelly Michaels, known by her middle name Kelly, was found guilty of multiple sex abuse offenses and sentenced to 47 years in prison. The decision was overturned after she spent five years in prison. An appellate court ruled that several issues in the original trial had produced an unjust ruling and the conviction was reversed. The case caught the attention of several psychologists who were concerned about the interrogation methods used and the quality of the children’s testimony in the case. This led to an era of more thorough research on the topic of children’s memory and suggestibility, resulting in updated recommendations for conducting interviews with child victims and witnesses.

. . .


underpants

(182,878 posts)
8. The timing of these are interesting
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:25 AM
Aug 2017

Late 80's early 90's sounds like a hysteria created via cable religious shows???

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. McMartin was the first
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:28 AM
Aug 2017

The media naturally printed the most salacious details and because the "trials" got drawn out and lasted for years copycats were bound to happen...

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
12. The numerous talk shows were often senationalist in nature
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 12:29 PM
Aug 2017

in the 80s and 90s as well. I did do a brief Google and the 80s were dubbed "Satanic Panic", which resonated in my feeble memory banks. Tipper Gore and her witch hunt(ahem) against heavy metal kicked it into Congressional hearings. Just one example of many.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. A little-used but surprisingly good technique
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:21 AM
Aug 2017

LeRoy Nieman, known principally for his impressionistic renderings of sporting events, was an early pioneer of this technique, and had to settle claims of up to $10M for copyright infringement in Satan v. Nieman for failure to share royalties with the joint creator of the works.

Nieman initially claimed that Satan's arm was no more sentient than a paintbrush or other tool. Unfortunately, upon taking the stand, Satan's arm became animated and threatened to take the souls of the jurors. At that point, Satan's attorneys called for a directed verdict, but the judge ordered the parties to go to mediation, rather than to extend the trial into an assessment of damages.

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
3. And the jury in Austin never questioned fantastical crap like this:
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:58 AM
Aug 2017

"The children recalled several plane trips, including one to Mexico, where they were sexually abused by soldiers before returning to Austin in time to meet their parents at the day care."

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/fran-keller-to-be-freed-in-satanic-abuse-case/nb5S2/

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
11. Look at the crap about Podesta and Clinton in 2016 and how many gave it consideration ...a pizza
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:40 AM
Aug 2017

joint where the kids were held and sold

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
10. There was a wave of these witch hunts at that time . Absolutely sickening . I know folks still
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:36 AM
Aug 2017

who will not take jobs involving children because of this possibility .

niyad

(113,552 posts)
13. in the late 80's/early 90's, there was a pamphlet telling people how to identify satanists.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 01:10 PM
Aug 2017

it was actually used by the san diego police department.

identifiers included having the following items in one's home: mortars and pestles, candles, incense, images of unicorns and fairies.

all the usual claptrap of the sorts of nonsense in those trials was also included. I was appalled that the city of SD would actually pay money for that nonsense.

underpants

(182,878 posts)
15. It's amazing to me how people used to get their word out. 3 industries.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 02:37 PM
Aug 2017

There are three industries that always are the first to utilize any new technology.
From cave drawings to illustration to moveable print to radio TV and internet.
Religion
Porn
And wrestling (violence)

Even back then religion was able to keep their word spreading. From the little old lady handing out scripture on Halloween to radio to mailers.

In a related way, the Grateful Dead had an extensive mailing list. My brother used to get a mailer for each tour. I think you could buy tickets by the mail. At least you knew where the shows were going to be. It was the only expense the Dead ever had for advertising.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Ah, there was nothing like a trip to the post office on the first day of Dead mail-order tickets
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 02:44 PM
Aug 2017

There were very specific instructions.

First, you had to make out a self-addressed stamped envelope.

Then, you had to put in a 3x5 index card with your name and information, the specific dates, the number of tickets, the type of tickets ("or any" ), arrayed on the index card in a particular way specified by the telephone number that you had to call for the recorded instructions.

Then you had to include a postal money order with the specific data on it laid out according to the instructions, etc.

The clerks at my post office were used to getting so many questions from people ordering tickets on those days, that they too knew the instructions and would provide guidance on how to make out your envelopes, index cards, and money orders.

San Rafael, CA 94912 - permanently burned into my memory.

What was also kind of nice is that the mail order tickets would usually be in designated blocks of the venues, so if you went to a couple of shows, even year-to-year, you'd end up sitting around people that you got to know over time.

underpants

(182,878 posts)
17. I'll have to ask him if he ordered tickets by mail
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 02:50 PM
Aug 2017

Being that we lived 20 minutes from the Mothership in Hampton he always had 8 shows a year there. We also were right in the middle,of the east coast tour stops. He saw a lot of shows.
Richmond - until they stopped playing there - was an hour away. Roanoke was easily within reach too.

His first ticket was $5 face value.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
18. They deserve more that 3.4 million
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:04 PM
Aug 2017

And what punishment should be handed out to those who wrongly convicted them and ruined their lives (which they will not get back)?

I'm not talking about some messed up children.

I'm saying that whoever found them guilty of "cutting the heart out of a baby" -- seriously, whose baby was that and why didn't they complain or the cops investigate -- or "using Satan’s arm as a paintbrush" -- what the fuck is that even supposed to mean? -- why aren't those people in a mental home or a prison?

Why would a judge even allow a case to move forward with such insane statements?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
20. That's probably the answer (to my last question)
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:11 PM
Aug 2017

Still like to know what punishment is handed out to those who convicted them.

(I know the legal system doesn't allow for that, but ... ... )

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