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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 09:19 PM Nov 2017

Trump and the Republicans cannot govern. Is that a feature or a bug?

House Republicans were supposed to release the details of their tax cut plan on Wednesday, but as of Tuesday night, it appears that they will push the release to Thursday, as they struggle to find ways to offset the cost of their plan. This sort of process — introducing major tweaks at the last minute, writing the bill in secret while touting its alleged benefits, throwing out new “payfors” at the last minute in hopes that lobbyists won’t have time to fight against them — is unprecedented.

In a way, so what if they’re a day late? History will not record this hiccup. But that glazes over the larger point. Except for health-care reform — the last big issue President Trump and the Republicans tried to legislate — I’ve never seen such lurching on such a portentous issue. The federal government collects about 17 percent of GDP in taxes, over $3 trillion per year; health-care spending is of a similar magnitude, split equally between the public and private sectors. And their health-care debacle came after seven years of endlessly inveighing against the Affordable Care Act, hundreds of wasted hours of debate and dozens of phony, showboating repeal votes that the Republicans knew would not pass.

This is terrible governance, brought to us at the hands of a majority political party that has mastered the art of getting elected, while remaining clueless as to what to do once in power.

But hold up a second. Why should I complain about this? If team Trump/Ryan/McConnell can’t move legislation that guts health care, adds tens of millions to the ranks of the uninsured, transfers trillions in tax revenue to the wealthiest households and multinational corporations at the expense of the middle class and the poor, that’s a feature of their legislative fecklessness, not a bug, right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/01/trump-and-the-republicans-cannot-govern-is-that-a-feature-or-a-bug

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Trump and the Republicans cannot govern. Is that a feature or a bug? (Original Post) Zorro Nov 2017 OP
I'd call it an airborne virus. Nt BootinUp Nov 2017 #1
Cannot govern, only campaign. This has been clear since Bush II era emulatorloo Nov 2017 #2
They also can't craft any real legislation. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #3
I think you have to go back to Eisenhower. murielm99 Nov 2017 #5
The first GOP president that I actually remember was Nixon. BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #6
Now that I think about it, murielm99 Nov 2017 #7
It might be a benefit C_U_L8R Nov 2017 #4

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
3. They also can't craft any real legislation.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:34 PM
Nov 2017

They say they can but haven't been able to for as long as I can remember. If they can't do that or govern than what can they do? Oh yeah, I forgot...lie, steal, cheat, kill, etc.and get reelected.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
5. I think you have to go back to Eisenhower.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:04 AM
Nov 2017

He was the last republican President who got anything done.

I was a kid then, but I remember.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
6. The first GOP president that I actually remember was Nixon.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:04 AM
Nov 2017

When he resigned on TV and cried I felt sorry for him (I was 12) and my parents said I would feel sorry for Hitler. Now I am older and wiser (?). I remember that I wrote a few letters to Reagan telling him that he was doing a shitty job with the economy and he should try to continue finding lost POWs that were still in Vietnam (I learned about that from 60 minutes). He was awful and was the beginning of the new GOP mantra...greed, lies, hypocrisy, sociopath, pseudo Christian, etc. I really do not know why anyone would ever vote for a Repub knowing their history. Most likely the GOP voters are religious, ignorant about history and politicians, super rich, racists, misogynists, and stupid enough to get all of their info from propaganda talk radio and Fux Ruse.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
7. Now that I think about it,
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 03:38 AM
Nov 2017

Nixon, though a crook, had the makings of a good President. He started some good programs. Viet Nam was an albatross for him, and of course, he was fatally flawed.

I grew up around a lot of republicans. I don't think they were as bad when I was a kid. They were the party of business owners and managers, but they were not the greedy hypocrites you describe so aptly. Their party has changed. If the Democrats ever become what the republicans have become, I will not be a Democrat any more.

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