Enough Trump Bashing, Democrats FRANK BRUNI, DEVAL PATRICK and JOE TRIPPI
'Frank Bruni, a Times Op-Ed columnist, hosted an online conversation with Deval Patrick, the former Massachusetts governor and the managing director of Bain Capital Double Impact, and Joe Trippi, a Democratic strategist most recently with the Doug Jones Senate campaign in Alabama, about the 2018 midterm elections and the challenges and opportunities they present for Democrats.'>>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/opinion/enough-trump-bashing-democrats.html?
George Lakoff: 'Don't retweet Donald Trump and don't use his language'
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210139358
msongs
(67,417 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Is that Mittens Romney? I agree with Lakoff. You broke rule number 1. The name is anathema and shame. Never, ever give the baby a mention on social media. Just my opinion
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)And he is not very persuasive.
I want a candidate who has courage, who is above all else, ethical and moral and stands up for what he truly believes. Man or woman, no matter.
I realize that politics is a matter of compromise. But if you stand for nothing and are mealy-mouthed from the get-go, you never change or improve the world.
We have too many of these mealy-mouthed people who can't stand up for what is morally and humanly right in the Democratic Party.
It's disgusting.
The Republicans are so wrong on so many issues -- downright cruel.
And that is why Democrats must stand up to them. In the long run, standing up for what is right, what furthers humanity, is the only way to go. That doesn't mean you can't compromise. It means that you make it known that you are compromising and that what you are getting in the compromise WILL HELP THE HELPLESS AND NEEDY in our society.
To compromise solely for personal and political advantage getting very little in return will not, in the end, earn respect or votes.
Sorry, but I compare all these people to my own parents who had moral courage, and these people, these politicians who explain and explain and compromise away the lives of their constituents and the future of America come up severely lacking.
And I think Trump bashing is more than okay, ESPECIALLY if they are talking about his actual policies (or lack thereof). Talk about the cruelty of the ICE raids. Talk about the cruelty of banishing 800,000 people who were brought here as kids to some country they may never have know. I mean, I guess I know he meant bashing in the sense of "Trump is an idiot" or something.
But talking about specific policies NEVER wins. It's too cerebral, too "wonky" to engage most people. Talk about what the Trump administration is doing to this country- like Zinke's depredations at Interior. Etc.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Which is what centrist Democrats do too often, which is like a judge trying to come up with a ruling that makes both a rapist and his victim happy.
It will either be bland platitudes, or an incomprehensible Rube Goldberg contraption that no one can figure out.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)Response to elleng (Original post)
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)we all accept this Trump nightmare as the "new normal"...
elleng
(130,974 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Hillary tried that and it didn't work well enough.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)And Frank Bruni is not 'tone policing'.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)It doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies. Sorry, caution is in my genes.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)I feel more and more strongly that the Democrats MUST call out Trump and "Trumpism" for what they are: a clear and present danger to the Republic..
Yes, there should be a well-thought out, savvy strategy. Yes, it must be presented also with a positive, alternative vision for the country (something that has been happening with Democratic congressional representatives leading protests at the border and other immigration detention centers). But calling out Trumpism is an urgent task if we are to save our democracy.
These three articles capture my own feeling of urgency (all three have been posted elsewhere on DU):
1. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/15/samantha-bee-robert-de-niro-trump-language
If youre not angry enough to curse, to scream or name-call, then youre not paying nearly enough attention. As the New Yorker writer Jia Tolentino tweeted in 2017: Never forget to be extremely wary of every person in your life who has not experienced this last year as a personal moral emergency.
Meeting extreme injustices with polite banter plays right into the hands of this administration, because it paints their outrageous actions as just being on one side of a well-meaning debate. Theyre not. This is not about disagreement, or political discourse. This is about fighting for whats right over what is clearly and demonstrably evil.
and this:
2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/he-was-fired-10-months-ago-but-stephen-k-bannon-has-won/2018/06/17/4bddc874-70b7-11e8-afd5-778aca903bbe_story.html?
and this:
3. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/trump-is-making-us-all-live-in-his-delusional-reality-show.html
The bad news is that a vast chunk of the American public wants all this to be true as well. If you had any doubts that the GOP is now a cult, this weeks primary results should put them to rest. Republican voters have decided that they will follow their leader no matter what he says, and if that means changing their minds on a dime, so be it. Take Canada. Not so long ago, it was funny to attack our benevolent neighbor to the north. Countless episodes of South Park wouldnt have worked without the baseline of reality that Canada is about as good and boring a neighbor as you can possibly imagine. But Trump has the power to change minds instantly. So in February this year, 94 percent had a favorable view of Canada. Now, only 66 percent have a favorable view, with 13 in opposition and 22 percent suddenly unsure. Only two years ago, free trade was as solid a shibboleth for the GOP as it gets; now, its anathema, even for Larry Kudlow! And watching every Republican senator, apart from McCain, Flake, and Corker (all retiring), stay utterly silent after their president praised a mass-murdering dictator and gave him a global PR coup well, its no longer surprising, but it should remain shocking.
. . .
But to cling to this now to empiricism, facts, to what we see with our eyes and hear with our ears, to what we can say in plain English is to commit to the central and most essential task of resistance. We live in a lie now, perpetrated from the very top, enhanced by relentless propaganda, and designed to shore up what is a cult. It is growing in strength. It is precisely now that we must manage at every moment to dispel it. And then to vote, en masse, for its extinction.