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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 12:54 PM Mar 2012

Our great moral decline

ASKED to explain his support for Rick Santorum in Michigan's primary, voter Sandy Munro said, "Now what we need is a strong political leader to do something to get us out of the moral slump that we’re in."

Mr Santorum would agree, having noted that "Satan has his sights on the United States of America." As would Mitt Romney, who has attacked the decay caused by Barack Obama's "secular agenda". Newt Gingrich has gone the furthest, stating, “A country that has been now since 1963 relentlessly in the courts driving God out of public life shouldn’t be surprised at all the problems we have."

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Here's one for the declinists: the number of Americans not affiliated with any religion has increased, while the number of those attending worship services has declined. And here's another: out-of-wedlock births have increased in America so that now at least four in ten children are born to unmarried women. This is something Mr Santorum has focused on during the campaign, and he is right in pointing out that the children of unwed mothers in America tend to do worse in terms of health, schooling and income later in life.

But here's where the real debate over America's moral position comes into focus. As the New York Times notes, out-of-wedlock births are increasing in much of the developed world—for example, over half of babies in Iceland and Sweden are born to unwed mothers. But according to Wendy Manning, a professor of sociology at Bowling Green State University, "In Sweden, you see very little variation in the outcome of children based on marital status. Everybody does fairly well... In the US, there’s much more disparity."

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/03/morals

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Our great moral decline (Original Post) SecularMotion Mar 2012 OP
This paragraph caught my eye Owlet Mar 2012 #1
Agree libodem Mar 2012 #2
But, as the article points out, the monologue from the right is based on false pretenses. SecularMotion Mar 2012 #3
It's all that damn pron. ellisonz Mar 2012 #4
This is why the "I don't care about unemployment" comment won't hurt him. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #5

Owlet

(1,248 posts)
1. This paragraph caught my eye
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 01:03 PM
Mar 2012

"So people like Mr Munro and the Republican candidates believe America is in a moral slump. The odd thing is, people on the left might actually agree, though for very different reasons. They are upset by the perceived greed of the 1%, and the broad acceptance of torture and war as foreign-policy tools. In the end, the debate over morality more closely resembles two distinct monologues."

How true.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
3. But, as the article points out, the monologue from the right is based on false pretenses.
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 01:28 PM
Mar 2012

All the indicators the right is using as evidence of a moral slump are declining, not increasing.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
5. This is why the "I don't care about unemployment" comment won't hurt him.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:02 PM
Mar 2012

These nuts would rather starve to death than let gays marry.

This is why belief in an afterlife is a bad thing.

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