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Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 09:42 PM Apr 2018

Trump says veterans wait too long for health care. VAs 33,000 vacancies might have something to do

By Emily Wax-Thibodeaux April 10 at 9:11 PM


The Department of Veterans Affairs, facing intense scrutiny amid reports of widespread dysfunction and a push by the Trump administration to outsource more medical care, has tens of thousands of full- and part-time vacancies nationwide, according to data compiled by veterans advocates, lawmakers and federal unions.

Most urgently, the agency’s health-care network needs thousands of primary care physicians, mental-health providers, physical therapists, social workers — even janitorial staff, Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), ranking Democrat of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, told The Washington Post in an interview. Of equal concern, he said, VA lacks enough human-resources personnel to vet candidates and make the hires.

“It’s crippling our ability to deliver health care to our vets,” Tester said. “ .?.?. It’s effectively pushing veterans outside the system.”

President Trump, and the conservative groups advising him, has seized on the long waits many veterans face at government facilities as grounds for aggressively expanding a program that enables patients to seek services from private providers at taxpayer expense. The proposal is deeply divisive, however, with opponents, including Democrats and Republicans in Congress, saying the effort could further weaken VA.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-says-veterans-wait-too-long-for-health-care-vas-33000-vacancies-might-have-something-to-do-with-that/2018/04/10/d20bc890-3ccf-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e0e2fc4269e7

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Trump says veterans wait too long for health care. VAs 33,000 vacancies might have something to do (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2018 OP
Their pay sucks Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #1
There is the Veterans Choice Program GP6971 Apr 2018 #3
Yeah I used it Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #4
Agree GP6971 Apr 2018 #5
Apply the millions going to be spent on Trump's Golden Raisin Apr 2018 #2

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
1. Their pay sucks
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 09:57 PM
Apr 2018

The VA here doesn't pay much of anything. Doctors consider working there as volunteer work.

Even janitors are paid badly.

So if they can't pay their staff decently, where are they getting the money to pay to outsource? Considering outsourcing always adds a layer of managment and profit to pay for, why do they have money for all that but no money for decent wages and salaries?

GP6971

(31,158 posts)
3. There is the Veterans Choice Program
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:39 PM
Apr 2018

which is funded. Criteria is you're eligible if you live more than 40 miles away from a VA center or if the wait time at a nearby center is more than 30 days.

The program is kind of polarizing...critics call it a steps to privatizing the VA. In one of the CRs, the program was funded at 2 some billion through February and is now funded with the spending bill through the end of September

I'm in the program and have had no issues with the providers...the managing company, not so much.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
4. Yeah I used it
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:59 PM
Apr 2018

They got all messed up the 2nd time I used them but other times they were ok.

But why fund this contracting out program with its additional costs for an additional layer of management to ensure services are provided and the cost of the profits the contractor must add to the bill? It would be cheaper just to use our tax dollars to pay doctors and staff in house.

GP6971

(31,158 posts)
5. Agree
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:03 PM
Apr 2018

but another problem is infrastructure. The VA would have to greatly expand their facilities in order to accommodate all the veterans seeking care. My center is the same size as it was 30 years ago.

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
2. Apply the millions going to be spent on Trump's
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:33 PM
Apr 2018

dictator-wannabe "parade" to Veterans' Health Care issues.

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