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Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:07 PM Aug 2018

What should Democrats do to win?



(snip)

If there were a poll of pundits, it would show a vast majority believe the best way forward is "middle muddled moderation". The goal, according to them, is to move the "purple people". The politically androgynous folks in red districts who have a bluish side. Trump voters who might be disillusioned or disgusted enough to switch. They warn that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are radical! Too radical! "They'll scare the purples back to red", they say. Suburban ladies that the Dems are counting on to vote against the p***y-grabber will panic, stay home, just making sure the leaves are raked from their autumn lawns.

(snip)

It fails to recognise that things had gone wrong before Trump and aside from Trump. If you're not looking at the real problems, you can't get to real solutions. Instead, you take polls, come up with an assortment of issues, have the pros write slogans for them, and the candidates go out and sound like focus group phonies. Which they will be.

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The Democrats no longer had an ideology. They continued to triangulate. They gave up territory step by step. With each compromise, the Republicans just went further to the right - at least on economic issues. The "centre" doesn't have its own location. As they moved right, they pulled it along. Today, Presidents Eisenhower and Nixon would be condemned by their own party as members of the dangerously radical Left, alongside Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

It should be blindingly obvious and irrefutable, as well. There is no compromise with Republicans. Obama didn't know it, but as he was being inaugurated, their leadership got together and determined to oppose anything he offered. They were committed to his failure, even if it hurt the country. His healthcare plan was a Republican plan and he offered compromise after compromise to get even one vote out of them. It never came.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/democrats-win-180802105300786.html


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What should Democrats do to win? (Original Post) Uncle Joe Aug 2018 OP
spend less time on trump and focus on pocket book/life quality... msongs Aug 2018 #1
I believe that's a step Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #2
The Dem Party Platform answers your burning question. Wwcd Aug 2018 #5
People relate to a story and their part in it. Kurt V. Aug 2018 #8
Get out and VOTE! nt ladjf Aug 2018 #3
That's a given but Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #4
Be the party of FDR, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson agincourt Aug 2018 #6
Nominate Biden. PrairieBlueCat Aug 2018 #7
VOTE -- everyone vote! Another thought re: messaging -- KPN Aug 2018 #9
Get more votes than their opponents. Votes in the Electoral College count too. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #10

msongs

(67,420 posts)
1. spend less time on trump and focus on pocket book/life quality...
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:17 PM
Aug 2018

republican tax cut is welfare for the wealthy will be paid for by taking away your SS/medicare
repubs have a health care plan. its called get sick and die
etc

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
2. I believe that's a step
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:22 PM
Aug 2018

in the right direction msongs.

But I believe that even then Democrats must give an aggressive competing vision of what the U.S. could/should be.

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
6. Be the party of FDR, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 11:23 PM
Aug 2018

The wheel has went turned full circle and the neo-neo liberal policies are not what people want.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
9. VOTE -- everyone vote! Another thought re: messaging --
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:57 PM
Aug 2018

hammer the fact that the deficit is exploding under Trump/GOP relentlessly. This is a big piece of the GOPs long-term con ... now is the time to hammer them with the truth, not after the fact when Ds have control. Now while they are in control.

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