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appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:52 PM Oct 2018

GOP FL Gov. Candidate, 'Founding Founders Were Right Not To Abolish Slavery'

"Florida Republican Gubernatorial Candidate Wrote A Book Arguing the Founding Fathers Were Right Not to Abolish Slavery," Matthew Chapman, Raw Story/AlterNet, Oct. 8, 2018. *EXCERPTS:

Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), the GOP’s nominee for governor of Florida, has found himself in yet another controversy over racist rhetoric. American Ledger, a project of the super PAC American Bridge, has unearthed a series of toxic arguments put forward by DeSantis in his 2011 book, “Dreams from Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama,” which he wrote while first running for Congress to bolster his credentials against President Barack Obama.

One of the most disturbing claims he made in the book was that Thurgood Marshall, the first African-American Supreme Court justice, was wrong to suggest the founding fathers’ failure to abolish slavery in the Constitution was a fundamental flaw.

“For someone like Marshall, this failure overshadows the numerous and long-lasting political achievements embodied in the structural foundations of the government that have nothing to do with the institution of slavery,” DeSantis said. But in fact, he went on, the “philosophical foundations of the Constitution are incompatible with slavery,” and bargains like the Three-Fifths Compromise, which counted enslaved persons as 3/5ths of a free citizen, actually “benefitted anti-slavery states.”...

If DeSantis had simply left it at the fact that tolerating slavery was essential to get the Southern states on board, he might have had a point. But for him to claim the Constitution somehow preordained the end of slavery as written is pure whitewashing, given that it took a bloody civil war to amend it to do so. Furthermore, his claim that allowing slave owners to get extra congressional apportionment for each enslaved person they owned was somehow a gift to “anti-slavery states” simply defies logic...

DeSantis has been facing accusations of racism ever since he stated on television that Florida should not “monkey this up” by electing Democratic opponent Andrew Gillum — the first black nominee of a major party for governor of Florida...

More, https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/florida-republican-gubernatorial-candidate-ron-desantis-wrote-book-arguing-founding-fathers-right-not-abolish-slavery/





Ron DeSantis speaking at the 2016 Conservative Political Action Conference, CPAC in National Harbor, Maryland.

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nycbos

(6,035 posts)
1. I like what Abigail Adams said on the subject.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:54 PM
Oct 2018

She doubted most of the Virginians had such "passion for Liberty" as they claimed they did, since they "deprive[d] their fellow Creatures" of freedom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abigail_Adams#Slavery

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
5. Abigail's correct. I never heard this one but know what an astute
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:10 PM
Oct 2018

writer she was, and a strong woman and dedicated partner. She didn't like how TJ sent Sally Hemings to France to 'help out' with his young daughter either. All the FF should have abolished slavery when composing the constitution, they knew it was coming and that it was wrong, reprehensible.

Edward Coles. An anti-slavery advocate throughout his adult life, Coles inherited a plantation and slaves but eventually left Virginia for the Illinois Territory in order to set his slaves free. He manumitted 19 slaves in 1819, and acquired land for them. In Illinois, he twice led political campaigns that prevented the legitimization of slavery in the new state.
>Coles corresponded with and advised both Thomas Jefferson and James Madison to free their slaves. In his final years in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he helped shape early historians' views of the presidents' republican ideals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Coles

Nitram

(22,845 posts)
12. Just like the modern GOP, they were interested only in their own freedom to do what they wanted.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:32 AM
Oct 2018

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
7. Gillim needs to win this state. DeSantis is UNFIT.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:13 PM
Oct 2018

I guess that new campaign manager in Pat Summerall's daughter isn't helping him any is she?

GOD, I pray the discord and dissension and accusations of being a racist piece of shit continues to dog DeRACIST until November 6th.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
9. If we win this state, and he is a really good guy, we
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:18 PM
Oct 2018

will see so many Dems encouraged to fight across other states! DeSantis is disgusting and what will he do for education etc? Nothing.

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
3. IS it any wonder that this tRump ass-kissing human POS's ....
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:08 PM
Oct 2018

Campaign is floundering like it is?

Slavery was a good thing?

Yeah, tell that to the slaves muthafukka. I hope Gillum runs with this for several news cycles agaist DeRACIST. Go out there on the campaign trail and fire his constituents up so they get out there and VOTE. REPEAT what DeRACIST said, and it's in essence that slavery was NO biggie. Ask DeRACIST why he wants racism to make a come back? Lord, please let DeRACIST keep wildly misfiring like he is. GOTV Floridians. Vote for Gillum 🙏🏼

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
4. Still fighting the Civil War,
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:09 PM
Oct 2018

when will it ever end?

Our founding fathers were capitalists, political creatures with self interests galore. I am grateful for the Republic they created from ashes. They never intended our Constitution to become a document enshrined in their frame of history.

Ok, it starts with voting. What can we do to help others understand it is a civic duty?

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