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elleng

(131,129 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 12:58 AM Oct 2018

Khashoggi BOMBSHELL: Britain 'KNEW of kidnap plot and BEGGED Saudi Arabia to abort plans.'

'MURDERED journalist Jamal Khashoggi was about to disclose details of Saudi Arabia’s use of chemical weapons in Yemen, sources close to him said last night. The revelations come as separate intelligence sources disclosed that Britain had first been made aware of a plot a full three weeks before he walked into the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.

Intercepts by GCHQ of internal communications by the kingdom’s General Intelligence Directorate revealed orders by a “member of the royal circle” to abduct the troublesome journalist and take him back to Saudi Arabia.

The orders, intelligence sources say, did not emanate directly from de facto ruler Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, and it is not known if he was aware of them.

Though they commanded that Khashoggi should be abducted and taken back to Riyadh, they “left the door open” for other actions should the journalist prove to be troublesome, sources said.

Last week Saudi Arabia’s Attorney General confirmed that the murder had been premeditated - in contrast to initial official explanations that Khashoggi had been killed after a fight broke out.'>>>

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1037378/Khashoggi-murder-news-saudi-arabia-chemical-weapons-use?

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Khashoggi BOMBSHELL: Britain 'KNEW of kidnap plot and BEGGED Saudi Arabia to abort plans.' (Original Post) elleng Oct 2018 OP
I wonder if the US also knew. CatMor Oct 2018 #1
I hate to admit it Control-Z Oct 2018 #3
I wonder if Nikki Haley knew... Cetacea Oct 2018 #11
Me too. Nt raccoon Oct 2018 #13
Puzzled ... CloudWatcher Oct 2018 #2
It does seem like if Britain knew so would U.S. Laffy Kat Oct 2018 #4
Remember that the Express is a bit of clickbait site.... Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #5
Plus the Saudis benefit from leaking this. If it is true. In the article they applegrove Oct 2018 #6
A heads up would have been nice... lame54 Oct 2018 #7
Other sources say British intelligence told US intelligence. So it may turn out pnwmom Oct 2018 #8
Or they were in on it and safeinOhio Oct 2018 #10
Of course they knew ... sarchasm Oct 2018 #9
Another source of the same info from unnamed sources... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #12

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
2. Puzzled ...
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:24 AM
Oct 2018
Crucially, the highly-placed source confirms that MI6 had warned his Saudi Arabian counterparts to cancel the mission - though this request as ignored.

The news story seems plausible, except ... wouldn't MI6 disclosing to the Saudis that they know of the "mission" seriously compromise their intel source? Unless the Saudi's knew they were being spied on and just didn't care? Seems unlikely to me somehow.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
4. It does seem like if Britain knew so would U.S.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:45 AM
Oct 2018

Why wasn't this stopped? I don't understand. Is Britain and the U.S. that impotent?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
5. Remember that the Express is a bit of clickbait site....
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:45 AM
Oct 2018

...and all the other reporting is not better sourced. Not saying it isn't so, just cautioning that we don't have a MSM US confirmation yet.

applegrove

(118,800 posts)
6. Plus the Saudis benefit from leaking this. If it is true. In the article they
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 02:24 AM
Oct 2018

said the source said the Crown Prince was not involved. So there is that. Take it with a grain of salt if you take it at all at this point.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
8. Other sources say British intelligence told US intelligence. So it may turn out
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 02:31 AM
Oct 2018

that it was US intelligence that decided to do nothing.

sarchasm

(1,012 posts)
9. Of course they knew ...
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 02:49 AM
Oct 2018

Of course Trump knew, and we know how he feels about the press ... the question is, why didn't anyone tell Khashoggi?

Trumps statement about it being "the worst cover up ever" sounds like he knew and was pissed it even came out.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
12. Another source of the same info from unnamed sources...
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:06 AM
Oct 2018

From Turkey.....

UK was aware of Saudi plot against Khashoggi: report
ANADOLU AGENCY

Link: https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2018/10/28/uk-was-aware-of-saudi-plot-against-khashoggi-report

(snips)

"Last month it was claimed that Saudi Arabia had been using US-supplied white phosphorous munitions against troops and even civilians in Yemen," the article said. "Though regulations state the chemical may be used to provide smokescreens, if used illegally it can burn to the bone," it said.

The Sunday Express also quoted a chemical warfare expert, Col. Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, as saying that "nothing is as effective as chemical weapons in clearing urban areas of troops and civilians -- Assad has used phosphorous for this very reason."

"If Khashoggi did, in fact, have proof that Saudi Arabia was deliberately misusing phosphorous for this purpose, it would be highly embarrassing for the regime and provides the nearest motive yet as to why Riyadh may have acted when they did against him," he said.

IMO, US intelligence would fight to keep this hush-hush because they do not want the US to be seen as complicit in the use of chemical weapons via our support of the Saudi military attacks in Yemen.

I don't consider this info as very credible until there's some link to known, reliable sources.

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