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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 06:04 AM Dec 2018

If This is True, Donald Trump is Finished


by Martin Longman December 27, 2018



On Sunday, April 15, 2018, I wrote, “If Michael Cohen went to Prague, then Donald Trump will be impeached, convicted, and removed from office, assuming he doesn’t resign.” The piece was in response to a Thursday evening article Peter Stone and Greg Gordon had written for McClatchy that claimed that the Office of Special Counsel (OSC) had evidence that, contrary to his repeated denials, Michael Cohen actually had traveled to Prague in the late summer of 2016 just as he was alleged to have done in the Steele Dossier. Obviously, I had no way to independently verify Stone and Gordon’s reporting, so I focused on the consequences of what they claimed to have learned assuming it were true. As for the veracity of their piece, I only noted that they were serious and well-respected reporters and that I knew that they were convinced they had the story right or they would never have gone to print with it.

As the months went by and there was no corroboration of their scoop, I began to wonder if they were going to wind up with egg on their faces. Lanny Davis began representing Michael Cohen and continued to deny that the Prague trip ever took place even as it became apparent that Cohen was cooperating with the OSC. Cohen was arrested, pleaded guilty and was convicted, and yet there was still no hint that he had verified a trip to Prague.

As a refresher, the claim that Michael Cohen went to Prague in late August or early September 2016 was the single most damning allegation in the Steele Dossier. Among the alleged purposes of the trip were to coordinate with Kremlin officials in an effort to manage the fallout from the mid-August firing of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, to find an innocent explanation for Carter Page’s recent trip to Moscow, and to develop a plan to compensate Romanian hackers who had supposedly played a role in the DNC hacks.

According to the Kremlin insider, COHEN now was heavily engaged in a cover up and damage limitation operation in the attempt to prevent the full details of TRUMP’s relationship with Russia being exposed. In pursuit of this aim, COHEN had met secretly with several Russian Presidential Administration (PA) Legal Department officials in an EU country in August 2016. The immediate issues had been to contain further scandals involving MANNAFORT’s commercial and political role in Russia/Ukraine and to limit the damage arising from exposure of former TRUMP foreign policy advisor, Carter PAGE’s secret meetings with Russian leadership figures in Moscow the previous month. The overall objective had been “to sweep it all under the carpet and make sure no connections could be fully established or proven.”

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https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/12/27/if-this-is-true-donald-trump-is-finished/
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If This is True, Donald Trump is Finished (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2018 OP
I see two possibilities here (neither are advantageous to us) GreydeeThos Dec 2018 #1
I share your cynicism. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2018 #4
Number 2 Oppaloopa Dec 2018 #7
Please stop saying "trump is finished" woundedkarma Dec 2018 #2
YEP Cosmocat Dec 2018 #5
Exactly Pacifist Patriot Dec 2018 #6
"Even if he met with the Russians, it is not a crime"... kentuck Dec 2018 #3
There is enough right now to impeach and convict Trump. watoos Dec 2018 #8
Completely agree. We can't wait until 2020. n/t MBS Dec 2018 #9

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
1. I see two possibilities here (neither are advantageous to us)
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 07:07 AM
Dec 2018

Number 1: McClatchy is exposing evidence that Mueller has. If the Special Council is holding evidence supplied by Cohen that will convict Trump in the final report, then McClatchy has tipped his hand and allowed Trump to devise an escape route.

Number 2: This is a gambit by the Trump people (in the sprit of Karl Rove) to throw out a story that appears factual on the surface, but has a carefully placed flaw that will sink it. It is a complete distraction formulated to discredit legitimate evidence in the eyes of the public.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
2. Please stop saying "trump is finished"
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 07:25 AM
Dec 2018

If the Mueller report doesn't take down trump, he's going to be there until the next election *at least*

There is already so much crap on him that if it's not enough, NOTHING will finish him.

It's all just wishful thinking. The line will be moved again.. the line will be crossed... trump will be finished again... and then the line will move again.

suddenly not holding my breath for the mueller report.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
6. Exactly
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:22 AM
Dec 2018

The list of things that should have finished Trump, would have finished a Democrat in a nanosecond, is now too long to count. I would not be surprised if it has moved beyond three digits and is now a four digit number. No exaggeration. Hell, he racked up at least four in one visit to the troops in a single day alone!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. There is enough right now to impeach and convict Trump.
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:34 AM
Dec 2018

Much more is going to come out from Mueller, much more is going to come out from the 17 investigations going on against the Trump crime family. Trump will do more things to deserve impeachment.

WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 2020 ELECTIONS TO VOTE HIM OUT.

Waiting that long will have the effect of condoning what he did. It is the duty of Congress to impeach when warranted, political decisions be damned. If the Senate wants to cover for a traitorous president who is making money off of the office of the presidency, then so be it, that is on the traitorous Senate Republicans.

I'm with Auntie Maxine, Trump is destroying our democracy, after the Mueller report, impeach, if not sooner.

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