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dalton99a

(81,540 posts)
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 03:11 PM Jan 2019

Why Trump Reigns as King Cyrus

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/opinion/trump-evangelicals-cyrus-king.html

Why Trump Reigns as King Cyrus
The Christian right doesn’t like the president only for his judges. They like his style.
By Katherine Stewart
Dec. 31, 2018



The month before the 2018 midterms, a thousand theaters screened “The Trump Prophecy,” a film that tells the story of Mark Taylor, a former firefighter who claims that God told him in 2011 that Donald Trump would be elected president.

At a critical moment in the film, just after the actor representing Mr. Taylor collapses in the flashing light of an epiphany, he picks up a Bible and turns to the 45th chapter of the book of Isaiah, which describes the anointment of King Cyrus by God. In the next scene, we hear Mr. Trump being interviewed on “The 700 Club,” a popular Christian television show.

As Lance Wallnau, an evangelical author and speaker who appears in the film, once said, “I believe the 45th president is meant to be an Isaiah 45 Cyrus,” who will “restore the crumbling walls that separate us from cultural collapse.”

Cyrus, in case you’ve forgotten, was born in the sixth century B.C.E. and became the first emperor of Persia. Isaiah 45 celebrates Cyrus for freeing a population of Jews who were held captive in Babylon. Cyrus is the model for a nonbeliever appointed by God as a vessel for the purposes of the faithful.

The identification of the 45th president with an ancient Middle Eastern potentate isn’t a fringe thing. “The Trump Prophecy” was produced with the help of professors and students at Liberty University, whose president, Jerry Falwell Jr., has been instrumental in rallying evangelical support for Mr. Trump. Jeanine Pirro of Fox News has picked up on the meme, as has Ron Dermer, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, among many others.

As the Trump presidency falls under siege on multiple fronts, it has become increasingly clear that the so-called values voters will be among the last to leave the citadel. A lot of attention has been paid to the supposed paradox of evangelicals backing such an imperfect man, but the real problem is that our idea of Christian nationalism hasn’t caught up with the reality. We still buy the line that the hard core of the Christian right is just an interest group working to protect its values. But what we don’t get is that Mr. Trump’s supposedly anti-Christian attributes and anti-democratic attributes are a vital part of his attraction.

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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
1. T as Cyrus is very strong in Evangelicalcircles. See manyguests on JimBakker YouTube videos
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 06:09 PM
Jan 2019

I think the idea was 'in the air' before Taylor's book.

Evangelicals were searching for a way to justify their support of a man whose life contradicts everything they claim to believe.

Also if T is a 'Cyrus' figure anointed by god, divinely chosen to lead the US 'back to godly ways', then any objector or resister to what he does or says reveals that person to be Satanic.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
3. Even when reporters try, they get it wrong.
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 06:43 PM
Jan 2019

Cyrus wasn't about to rebuild anything. Not what he wanted. He wanted peace and to gain the support of his new subjects. He didn't lead Israel back to righteousness. Not his thing.

The Jews were sent home, so that they could rebuild their walls and temple, return to their land that they were said they'd been evicted from for disobedience. The rebuilder would be Zerubbabel. And not necessarily a real go-getter, at that.

There's also little to suggest that anybody thought Cyrus especially righteous in any important way. He was considered sent by God, as was Nebuchadnezzar, for a purpose. Nebuchadnezzar, to punish. Cyrus, to grant space for a restoration and for obedience--but not independence, because the punishment was merely alleviated, not ended.

I think that saying they all support Trump therefore try to find justification is a bit off. A lot looked around, and had trouble supporting any of the candidates. But the Cyrus analogy gave them space for supporting Trump. Now, some liked Trump because he signaled that he was like them in some sense, so finding justification is what they did; but others were repelled by HRC, and didn't much like Trump. And as I've said before, if you don't like Cyrus you can get the same attitudes towards rulers on the part of Paul.

trev

(1,480 posts)
2. "We still buy the line that the hard core of the Christian right is just an interest group working..
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jan 2019

to protect its values."

The Christian Coalition is a conservative political movement, the basis of today's GOP. Its goal is to instill a tyrannical Christian government.

[link:http://www.encyclopedia.com/sports-and-everyday-life/social-organizations/private-organizations/christian-coalition]

"The coalition's central goals have been to gain working control of the Republican Party through grassroots organizing and to elect Christian candidates to office."

It is the driving force behind placing anti-science members of school boards into office, and in electing other Creationist and Fundamentalist politicians at the state and city level.

[link:http://www.qrd.org/qrd/www/FTR/christco.html]

"According to Ralph Reed, the Christian Coalition's executive director, 'The Christian community got it backwards in the nineteen-eighties. We tried to charge Washington when we should have been focusing on the states. The real battles of concern to Christians are in neighborhoods, school boards, city councils, and state legislatures.'"

It is an anti-democracy organization.


SunSeeker

(51,581 posts)
4. Yes, it is all about installing a tyrannical government.
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:17 PM
Jan 2019

I wouldn't call it Christian since it has nothing to do with the teachings of Christ.

trev

(1,480 posts)
5. Agreed.
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:28 PM
Jan 2019

In college I wrote a 30-page paper about the rising Christian Right. My research made my blood boil.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
6. The Bible. Lol
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

“Do good things and be virtuous. Or not.”

There’s always some verse that can be used to justify goodness or as cover for inflicting unspeakable suffering.

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