The Trump Tax Cut: Even Worse Than You've Heard - Paul Krugman
Source: New York Times
The Trump Tax Cut: Even Worse Than Youve Heard
Skeptical reporting has still been too favorable.
By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist
Jan. 1, 2019
The 2017 tax cut has received pretty bad press, and rightly so. Its proponents made big promises about soaring investment and wages, and also assured everyone that it would pay for itself; none of that has happened.
Yet coverage actually hasnt been negative enough. The story you mostly read runs something like this: The tax cut has caused corporations to bring some money home, but theyve used it for stock buybacks rather than to raise wages, and the boost to growth has been modest. That doesnt sound great, but its still better than the reality: No money has, in fact, been brought home, and the tax cut has probably reduced national income. Indeed, at least 90 percent of Americans will end up poorer thanks to that cut.
Let me explain each point in turn.
First, when people say that U.S. corporations have brought money home theyre referring to dividends overseas subsidiaries have paid to their parent corporations. These did indeed surge briefly in 2018, as the tax law made it advantageous to transfer some assets from the books of those subsidiaries to the home companies; these transactions also showed up as a reduction in the measured stake of the parents in the subsidiaries, i.e., as negative direct investment (Figure 1).
But these transactions are simply rearrangements of companies books for tax purposes; they dont necessarily correspond to anything real. ...
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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/01/opinion/the-trump-tax-cut-even-worse-than-youve-heard.html
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)Don't take this personally, Eugene, as I'm speaking generally, but I wish people would quit linking to articles that are behind a paywall. Just because the poster is willing to pay money to read something does not mean that I am.
There are too many pieces of good journalism on paywall sites to pass them up: The New Yorker, Washington Post, New York Times, etc. I support as many as I can, and I'll continue posting good stuff from them.
There are plenty of ways to bypass paywalls if you must. Give it a Google.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Don't take this personally, Eugene, as I'm speaking generally, but I wish people would quit linking to articles that are behind a paywall. Just because the poster is willing to pay money to read something does not mean that I am.
That comment is just so je n'ais c'est quoi. If you read NYT.com so often that you hit the limit immediately, maybe stop being a selfish freeloader and start paying for your own subscription? You understand they aren't a non-profit, unpaid volunteer organization, right?
And a long-standing rule is not more than 3 paragraphs may be quoted from an article. DU got sued years back over quoting whole articles if I recall correctly.
irisblue
(33,010 posts)Depending on the operating system on your device, you can get 5 more articles
PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)No one is asking the Republicans when the tax cut benefits are going to kick in. They are only asking them what we are going to do about the deficits that have somehow appeared from out of the blue. They haven't associated the deficits with the tax cuts. They somehow associate the deficits with the people on welfare though they aren't on welfare because unemployment is supposedly so low, or the people who get food stamps but they don't get food stamps because they are means tested, or the people getting free insurance but they are not getting insurance subsidies because Obamacare has been crippled. The republicans have done all these things to take away benefits from the needy and give money to the rich and still the deficit grows and grows. Reverse the TAX CUT NOW!!! But the blame where it belongs. MITCH MCCCONNELL!!!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)exit before the poop hits the fan, didn't he? Why would he give up a job with the many, many benefits he had to "retire"???
Tbear
(488 posts)Whole thing after reading Mr. Krugman's article makes me feel sick in my stomach. Literally
George II
(67,782 posts)Starting today there is no longer a deduction for medical expenses (including dental and healthcare insurance)
The personal exemption, which was $4,150 per family member last year, is supposed to go away
The standard deduction is going up from $12,700 to $24,000 for a married couple (NOT "double" like Ryan, trump, et. al. claimed)
There are other changes, but these are the big ones.
In a nutshell, let's say you're a married couple with two children. Here's the difference:
In 2017 you could deduct $12,700 standard deduction and $16,600 personal exemptions, total of $29,300
In 2017 the standard deduction is up to $24,000 with NO personal exemptions, total of $24,000
So the big splash of the "doubled" standard deduction results in a net of -$5,300 for a family of four.
Add to that all the deductions that no longer apply (healthcare expenses, cap on real estate taxes, and others) and the biggest tax cut in decades will wind up being a tax INCREASE for most working class Americans.
burrowowl
(17,642 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,984 posts)he said the benefits just haven't shown up yet. WTF.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)But it didn't include student loan payment interest, so it should go down to around $200. I'm just a single person with not many deductions, and I always try to owe at least a little; I don't like lending the government money interest-free all year.
I bet some people will end up being really surprised at what they owe.
PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)so I have to claim the money I give to her as income and she doesn't any more. And my only income will be social security from now on which she will me getting 25% of. 48 years of working sure paid off for me...
Where did you hear this about alimony? This is not true....
PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)Alimony is no longer tax deductible. The rich won't notice but it will kill someone like me where it's a quarter of my income.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)If you have a divorce decree signed and were divorced before 2019, you can continue to deduct your alimony payments as you have before in the past. This is why your original post made no sense where you claim you could deduct it before and now you can't.