She wants to be sworn into Congress on a Quran
Rashida Tlaib won her race to represent Michigan's 13th congressional district. Tlaib will make history as the first Palestinian-American woman to serve in Congress. She and incoming Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota will also be the first two Muslim women ever elected to Congress.
More than a year before she ran for Congress, Tlaib made headlines when she was thrown out of an event in Michigan where Trump was speaking after interrupting the then-Republican presidential nominee to ask if he had ever read the Constitution. She later described it as "the most American thing I could ever do."
During her campaign, Tlaib -- a member of the Democratic Socialists of America -- embraced progressive ideas like Medicare-for-all, a $15 dollar minimum wage and debt-free college as well as calls to abolish ICE and impeach the President.
Tlaib has said she will wear a Palestinian gown called a thobe for her swearing-in ceremony and wants to be sworn in on a Quran. The incoming congresswoman said that she has considered the possibility of using Thomas Jefferson's Quran or her own, calling the former President's Quran a "symbol," that "Islam has been part of American history for a long time."
Tlaib said that people are "taken aback" when she tells them Jefferson had a Quran. "But I like that," she said, adding, "I like that it's kind of pushing against the stereotype that somehow we're new to this country."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/03/politics/rashida-tlaib-breaking-barriers/index.html
calimary
(81,527 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)that had a shit fit when Keith did that. I'm glad he did. And he used one of Thomas Jefferson's copies of the Quran.
calimary
(81,527 posts)I remember they whined and sniveled and complained. Frankly, if that bunch of racists, misogynists, low-information voters, and other assorted ding-dongs is upset about something, Ive come to regard whatever it is as probably something quite good.
And that was indeed Thomas Jeffersons copy of the Koran, too. When I heard about that, I remember thinking it was pretty cool!
Brainstormy
(2,381 posts)Alice in Wonderland. Fiction is fiction. Makes no difference to me. But being sworn in on a copy of the Constitution, or a family photo album, would be a better choice.
Siwsan
(26,308 posts)Just seems the most appropriate way.
Liberty Belle
(9,538 posts)Glorfindel
(9,739 posts)Anything else smacks of "establishment of religion" or "religious test," both of which are forbidden by the Constitution.
Volaris
(10,275 posts)They are swearing an oath TO the constitution, not ON it. As long as they're not got their hands on a book about how to be a good liar, I sorta don't care heh.
They could get sworn in on a first-run Spiderman, and it shouldn't make any kind of difference (as the above-poster stated).
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,495 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)US business, in a court of law or anywhere else???
IronLionZion
(45,563 posts)except they don't put their hand on it.
I, , do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Oath-of-Office/
I bet a few of them have violated this oath if they colluded with Russia or opposed constitutional rights for people they don't like.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)Why does anyone need a book, talisman, or body part to utter an oath to support the Constitution? You do or you don't. Yes or no. Should be a simple matter of spoken words. Period.
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)Actually, no Bibles or other religious texts are used during the swearing-in ceremony for the House of Representatives incoming House members simply stand in front of the speakers podium en masse, raise their right hands, and recite an oath in which they swear to uphold the Constitution. Bibles are generally either carried by new House members during the ceremony or dont make an appearance until the newly-sworn Congressmen pose with them during a post-swearing-in photo opportunity with the Speaker of the House:
When newly elected members of Congress raise their right hands to take the oath of office in January, they wont be placing their left hands on the Bible or any other religious text.During official swearing-in ceremonies, newly elected members dont place their hand on any book. However, individual members may choose to carry a sacred text.
Some members carry a Bible. You dont actually put your hand on a Bible. I cant see how anyone would object to carrying a Quran, said Senate historian Don Ritchie.
In Congress, the House speaker administers the oath to members en masse on the House floor. Its up to individual members if they want to hold a religious text, said Fred Beuttler, House deputy historian.
First-time members are more likely to carry a sacred text or have their family and religious leader present for a staged ceremony in the speakers or their own office, Beuttler said.
Accordingly, although Ellison was not technically sworn in with the Quran, after the official swearing-in ceremony he posed for photographs with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, both of them posed with their hands upon a copy of the Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson.
Gothmog
(145,666 posts)akraven
(1,975 posts)I would swear on Callahan's Halftime Saloon if ever elected.
Religion is personal. If the Quran is hers, go for it. Then warmly welcome her.
progressoid
(50,000 posts)More religion. That's what 'Murica needs.
The Polack MSgt
(13,200 posts)When she swore in to the House of Representatives.
As was pointed out earlier in the thread, folks don't actually swear in with their hands on anything.
I have been through a several "I solemnly swear" situations - Enlistments/re-enlistments in the USAF and swearing in to serve on a grand jury - and never touched anything in the ceremonies. Just raised my right hand and swore or affirmed that I would honorably execute etc. etc.
wolfie001
(2,279 posts)3 Stooges style!
Cyrano
(15,071 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)But if I did, what I would use for the ceremonial swearing in would either be a copy of Amazing Fantasy #15 (which I'd have to borrow) or Amazing Spider-Man #1 (which I own), which repeats the origin.
In both issues, the origin ends with the reminder "With great power comes great responsibility."
MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)Sugar & Spike, the misadventures of two babies in an adult world.
Specifically, I would use the issue that ends with Spike calling The President a "Dum Dodo!"