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mac56

(17,566 posts) Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:42 PM Jan 2019

Opinion: Trump won the night. Schumer and Pelosi lost. (not MY opinion)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/opinions-trump-won-the-night-schumer-and-pelosi-lost/ar-BBRZZU6?ocid=ientp

"Pelosi and Schumer failed to use the one word that millions of Americans were longing to hear — compromise. But Trump did. That is why the president won the night. Schumer and Pelosi appealed to their base, while Trump made an effective appeal to persuadable Americans."

I can't even.

"Persuadable Americans"?!

Who the hell is Marc Thiessen?!

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Opinion: Trump won the night. Schumer and Pelosi lost. (not MY opinion) (Original Post) mac56 Jan 2019 OP

Right wing asshole says what? dem4decades Jan 2019 #1

"hostage-taker wins night, calling for compromise." unblock Jan 2019 #2

Sorry. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #3

Marc Thiessen - former Bush admin speechwriter, works for right-wing think tank, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #4

Why do we have to look this up? DBoon Jan 2019 #10

"Marc Alexander Thiessen is an American Republican author, columnist and political commentator. klook Jan 2019 #5

A quick check shows Thiessen was a speechwriter for W and Rummy BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #6

Thiessen has been spreading bullshit about "liberal bias" for years dalton99a Jan 2019 #7

Unfortunately, I think that is true. Trump's lies and warmongering works for him. Doodley Jan 2019 #8

I was much more disappointed that they didn't use the word really needed to be said... SeattleVet Jan 2019 #9

Oh fer gawd's sakes. Mark Thiessen is a Trump sycophant. Why is this even posted? hlthe2b Jan 2019 #11

Oh fer gawd's sakes. mac56 Jan 2019 #12

You know what helps when I see an outlier opinion and don't recognize the author? hlthe2b Jan 2019 #14

A RWNJ who writes for the WA PO Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #13

The news is full of easily swayed idiots. Oneironaut Jan 2019 #15

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)

1. Right wing asshole says what?

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:44 PM

Jan 2019

That's who that guy Marc is.

unblock

(52,208 posts)

2. "hostage-taker wins night, calling for compromise."

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:47 PM

Jan 2019

"police stance not to negotiate with terrorists seen as obstructionist"

"psychologists urge parents to praise and reward child holding breath to get way"

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)

3. Sorry.

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:48 PM

Jan 2019

Chuck and Nancy won big. They were'nt even going to get a rebuttal until America roared. The gop doesnt set the table for Democrats success.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)

4. Marc Thiessen - former Bush admin speechwriter, works for right-wing think tank,

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:51 PM

Jan 2019

the American Enterprise Institute. He wrote speeches for Rumsfeld when he worked in the Bush administration. He wrote a book, Courting Disaster: How the CIA Kept America Safe and How Barack Obama Is Inviting the Next Attack, in which he argued that the "enhanced interrogation techniques" used by the CIA were not torture but "were not only effective, but lawful and morally just". The book was endorsed by the former Vice President Dick Cheney, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Thiessen So, consider the source. Thiessen is an extremely biased right-winger.

DBoon

(22,363 posts)

10. Why do we have to look this up?

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 02:20 PM

Jan 2019

Why is it not provided as background in the original editorial?

klook

(12,154 posts)

5. "Marc Alexander Thiessen is an American Republican author, columnist and political commentator.

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:52 PM

Jan 2019

He served as a speechwriter for United States President George W. Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld."
- Wikipedia

Not who I'm looking for to give me perspective.

And, by the way, when Trump says "compromise," that's just a rhetorical device. It means nothing. He doesn't compromise. He only tricks, obfuscates, evades, snookers, hornswoggles, bamboozles, lies, hoaxes, whines, and bullies.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)

6. A quick check shows Thiessen was a speechwriter for W and Rummy

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:52 PM

Jan 2019

dalton99a

(81,475 posts)

7. Thiessen has been spreading bullshit about "liberal bias" for years

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 02:01 PM

Jan 2019

Doodley

(9,088 posts)

8. Unfortunately, I think that is true. Trump's lies and warmongering works for him.

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 02:14 PM

Jan 2019

Until he is effectively redefined by his opposition, his base will remain firm.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)

9. I was much more disappointed that they didn't use the word really needed to be said...

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 02:15 PM

Jan 2019

'LIAR'.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)

11. Oh fer gawd's sakes. Mark Thiessen is a Trump sycophant. Why is this even posted?

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 02:40 PM

Jan 2019

mac56

(17,566 posts)

12. Oh fer gawd's sakes.

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 03:30 PM

Jan 2019

In the original post I acknowledged that I didn't know who Thiessen is.

Cut me some slack. Geez.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)

14. You know what helps when I see an outlier opinion and don't recognize the author?

Reply to mac56 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 03:38 PM

Jan 2019

Googling the author... (Just a suggestion so that no one questions your intent, a common problem particularly for more recent posters).

Here's just three results that would make it pretty clear to me:

Marc Thiessen: Trump could be the most honest president in modern ...
https://www.twincities.com/.../marc-thiessen-trump-could-be-the-most-honest-presiden...

Oct 14, 2018 - WASHINGTON — Donald Trump may be remembered as the most honest president in modern American history. Don't get me wrong, Trump ...

Marc Thiessen: Trump deserves more latitude, less attitude | Mail ...
mailtribune.com/opinion/.../marc-thiessen-trump-deserves-more-latitude-less-attitude

Well, that didn't take long. President Trump had barely departed Singapore when Democrats in Washington unleashed scathing attacks over his meeting with ...

Marc Thiessen: What Trump must do to avoid being a one-term president
https://newsok.com/.../marc-thiessen-what-trump-must-do-to-avoid-being-a-one-term-...

Nov 21, 2018 - WASHINGTON — President Trump did defy history in the 2018 midterm elections. While his predecessor, Barack Obama, lost 63 House seats ...

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)

13. A RWNJ who writes for the WA PO

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 03:36 PM

Jan 2019

Their token conservative.

Oneironaut

(5,493 posts)

15. The news is full of easily swayed idiots.

Reply to mac56 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 03:53 PM

Jan 2019

“Trump didn’t drool on himself! He’s so Presidential! Schumer shutdown!!!” - All the news networks.

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