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FRG4

(14 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:49 PM Apr 2012

On Open Letter to President Obama, this time from the Chinese people

The letter is divided into three parts, and was first found on the site http://www.bearcanada.com/. It's an interesting example of how some Chinese people view the US-China relationship at the current time.

A few excerpts from each part: Part 1

We noted with some surprise a recent announcement in The Washington Post of your intention to openly engage in political subversion in our country.

We're told you are "very, very interested in how to reach into China, how to (bypass our government and) reach Chinese citizens directly", and that you have enlisted help from apparent Chinese "dissidents", asking where and how you should use your leverage.

As we understand it, you mean to try to corrupt the allegiance of our people by attempting to destroy our loyalty and patriotism, to turn us against our own government, and to use us as pawns to undermine the foundation of our own country.

We are writing to express our objection.


Part 2:

You have criminals in your country, and you have corrupt politicians too, but it would be mean-spririted and dishonest of us to suggest that their actions represent the moral standards of all America. Do you agree? Why are you so eager to believe it's different for us?

We were just as shocked and appalled as you, to learn that some of our milk was contaminated with melamine, and you may be surprised to learn that Chinese dogs don't like poisoned food any more than American dogs do.

Our country is still developing. We have made enormous progress, but for sure we still have a long way to go. However, we look forward to our future. We have changed many things, and will change many more. But we want to do it ourselves.

We believe we see ourselves, our country and our future, much more clearly than you do. We know what needs to be done, and don't feel we need anyone directing us, and especially not a country that is in many ways in worse condition than ours.


Part 3:

We know we cannot produce any instant victory over foreign interference in our affairs and that we will have to continue our monitoring, perhaps indefinitely. But we think it's important for the sake of our country that we succeed.

It should be noted that our government is not involved in this. In fact, we have avoided any contact with any part of the government in case they want to be more prudent and ... how did you put it ... something about ... "the risk of further destabilizing an important relationship ..."

This is a grassroots nationwide issue involving only "the Chinese people" whom you so much want to "reach out to". It has no central focus, no head office, no place to direct a silver bullet.
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On Open Letter to President Obama, this time from the Chinese people (Original Post) FRG4 Apr 2012 OP
reads like a communist party press release lol nt msongs Apr 2012 #1
So laughably chock-full of pretentious bullshit I can't pick a place to start Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #2
on the page DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #3
FRG4, why have you linked to a Nazi supporting site? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #4
what a joke EgaLitE Apr 2012 #5

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
2. So laughably chock-full of pretentious bullshit I can't pick a place to start
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 04:14 PM
Apr 2012

I'll just say that any person moronic enough to claim to speak for 1.2 billion people (even as a rhetorical device) is not someone to take seriously...But after digesting that mountain of text, I understand why no one would want to put their name on it and claim ownership of those disjointed ramblings...

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
3. on the page
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:46 PM
Apr 2012

You can see a nice bit of holocaust denial...it really helps their credibitlity when they bring up the whole Khazar crap.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,364 posts)
4. FRG4, why have you linked to a Nazi supporting site?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:06 PM
Apr 2012

That site has some of the most repugnant pro-Nazi propaganda I have ever seen on the web. It claims that Jews 'betrayed Germany', 'declared war on Germany', ran white slavery businesses, and so on.

As for its attitude to China and the USA, it attacks multi-party democracy. Are you against democracy? Why would you post such trash here? The writers are clearly extreme bigots. Why would you think anyone here is interested in what is, at best, Chinese Communist Party propaganda, and may well be true neo-Nazi bullshit?

EgaLitE

(31 posts)
5. what a joke
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:30 PM
Apr 2012

it's from a hate site obviously which is sympathetic to the chinese government. any site which criticizes obama & is pro-China while also simultaneously criticizing Israel has no credibility. anybody who doesn't want "interference" in their country usually has something to hide. The OP needs to be banned.

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