Over 60, and Crushed by Student Loan Debt
One generation of Americans owed $86 billion in student loan debt at last count. Its members are all 60 years old or more. Many of these seniors took out loans to help pay for their childrens college tuition and are still paying them off. Others took out student loans for themselves in the wake of the last recession, as they went back to school to boost their own employment prospects.
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Some are having funds garnished from their Social Security checks. The federal government, which is the largest student loan lender in the country, garnished the Social Security benefits, tax refunds or other federal payments of more than 40,000 people aged 65 and older in fiscal year 2015 because they defaulted on student or parent loan debt. Thats up 362% from a decade prior, according to the latest data from the Government Accountability Office.
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Student debt is one of the biggest contributors to the overall increasing debt burden held by seniors. U.S. consumers who are 60 or older owed around $615 billion in credit cards, auto loans, personal loans and student loans as of 2017. That is up 84% since 2010the biggest increase of any age group, according to the TransUnion data... Seniors are finding they have to work longer, holding onto positions younger adults might otherwise receive. Theyre relying on credit cards and personal loans to pay for basic expenses. People 65 and older account for a growing share of U.S. bankruptcy filers, according to the Consumer Bankruptcy Project; unlike most consumer loans, student debt is rarely dischargeable in bankruptcy.
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In recent years, private lenders including SLM Corp. , better known as Sallie Mae, and Citizens Financial Group Inc., have increased their focus on parents. Theyve rolled out student loans that are just for parents who want to pay for their kids college education. The loans main pitch includes the possibility of a lower interest rate for parents who have high credit scores than what the federal government charges on its own parent loans; it also allows parents to spare their children the burden of debt by taking it on themselves. A spokesman for Sallie Mae says that parent loans accounted for around 2% of the student loan dollars the company originated last year. A Citizens spokesman says the majority of parent loans come from the federal program. Another problem: The federal government caps the dollar amount of loans that undergraduate students can borrow for college, but no caps exist for the aggregate amount that parents can take on.
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Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)And so a recipient may only receive $750 to live on, total.
I know someone who took a student loan for less than $2,000 in the 1980s, defaulted eventually due to divorce and hardships. The debt ballooned due to interest over the years, and now his social security benefit is capped at $750, the rest going to the ballooned debt.
The other weird aspect is that for purposes of applying for SNAP, the earned benefit must be claimed as income, not the actual benefit received. That drives down the SNAP benefit.
question everything
(47,497 posts)as, say, credit cards.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)the old small student loan simply fell off the radar for a couple of decades....no contact from lender, nothing. Forgotten. Then when social security kicked in, the garnishing began with no notice.
question everything
(47,497 posts)This, at least, should be changed by Congress. Among other things..
3Hotdogs
(12,394 posts)Some of these loans go out over decades. If the senior dies, is the debt uncollectable?
Much of the problem started when Congress made student debts non-dischargable in bankruptcy court. Congress can fix this.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Typically student loans survive a bankruptcy. However if the bankruptcy judge determines that repaying the student loan would cause an undue hardship. This involves an additional process in the bankruptcy, and it would be recommended to see if an attorney can take the case pro bono because the judge would view it as "they can afford an attorney, they can afford the student loan repayment."
Student loans die upon death, but I'm not sure about student loans taken out by parents... if parents die does the child inherit that debt?
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)could always win the lottery.
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(47,497 posts)MichMan
(11,940 posts)You can't buy a mcmansion or a exotic car, declare bankruptcy and still get to keep it free and clear. but once a degree is earned it can't be taken away.
Seems like too many people would game the system by borrowing the max amount available, declaring bankruptcy after graduating and then take some high dollar job with an investment bank or as a physician.
Maybe the solution is that if you declare bankruptcy and get student loans discharged, every single one of your college credits gets expunged like you never attended.
question everything
(47,497 posts)Some years ago there was a story about a high school graduate who was advised by a counselor to study journalism. She took several loans, did not like that, changed major - a long complicated story - ended up without any degree but with a debt of $140,000.
One can always go go a community college. One can - gasp - live at home while earning a degree.
And, yes, one can sit with parents and see what they can afford, if at all. Being familiar with the parents financial situation should not be a taboo. Will be useful when the parents can no longer take care of themselves some years down the road.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)don't realize how depressing and onerous it is to go through, and how hard people try to avoid it.
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(47,497 posts)loan.
These were the days when "hippies" at Haight-Ashbur had no qualms about swiping a fruit from a fruit stand.
Yes, we can complain about unfair policies but, let's be honest, many thought in the 60s and the 70s, perhaps now, that they could take whatever they wanted.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Why would you assume deep debt?
The loan may be the only debt. I know that from the experience of the person I cite. No other debt. No credit and no debt other than the forgotten small student loan now ballooned by interest.
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)even if you are paying on income based rate, which for many is $0, you can't get auto loans etc. because the amount you should be paying is considered outflow that you can't cover so no loan for you.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)in not one bill but in several bills, over years. Those laws are why some seniors are STILL struggling with student loan debt. They couldn't get out from under these loans no matter what -- even if they had to declare bankruptcy, they'd still be stuck with these loans.
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)I'm 58. I've paid the balance of this loan off probably 4 times since it started becoming due in 1991. But two times in the last 10 years I've stopped paying: in 2009 I was hospitalized with pneumonia, and in 2013 my boss reduced our pay by 50%. Both times, 19% "collection" penalties were imposed. In 2014 my loan balance was $35k (it was originally about $30k back in 1991, and I've been paying on it ever since) and after paying $23k in the last 4 years, the balance has gone down only $1k. It doesn't report on my credit report as a loan I'm paying on, because the federal government declared it due in full in 2014. It's been "in collections" ever since.
I'll be paying this while I'm getting social security.
I've paid over $100k on this loan over the last almost-30 years. It'll never be paid off. Every month I pay a minimum of $500 and less than half goes toward the principal.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)question everything
(47,497 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)because of unemployment and they wouldn't give me a break. The interest just kept piling up and then when I got a job the minimum payment was too much for me to pay. I tried to negotiate but they would never give me a break. I ended up with over 80k in interest on a 50k loan. It just makes me sick to my stomach.
I am paying it off now and have never once defaulted, but I will be in my late 70's/early 80's by the time I pay it off if I ever live that long. That is if I am still employed, which is doubtful once I get older. I sometimes wonder if life is even worth living. I am not going to struggle to pay them off. I would rather be dead.