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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:05 AM Mar 2019

Trump sends the wrong message on New Zealand. World leaders must denounce the attack. - WP Editorial

By Editorial Board March 15 at 7:45 PM

THE UNSPEAKABLE carnage in New Zealand must be called out by its proper name: a terrorist attack by a white-nationalist bigot consumed by Islamophobia and impelled by the fervid extremism that suffuses the Internet’s darkest crevices.

The alleged gunman’s garden-variety racism — his rantings about the peril posed to whites faced with “replacement” by Muslims — is of a piece with other hatreds espoused by other racist killers in other places and times. That he spent his days slinking through online cesspools and communing with like-minded social networks gives his crime a postmodern gloss.

But the forces that animated him, as evidenced by his inflamed manifesto — ignorance, intolerance, bloodthirsty tribalism — are ancient. The Internet and social media did not invent or refine evil; they just made it accessible on demand, in all its banal and lurid manifestations. As for the suspect’s evident wish to instigate discord and sow divisions — he wrote that he wanted to “incite violence, retaliation and further divide” and hoped that by carrying out his massacre with a firearm he would add fuel to the United States’ gun debate — he’s a little late.

Still, it’s critical that world leaders clearly and precisely denounce this ghoulish act. An attack on mosques, as on any place of worship, is especially sinister and dangerous. Online racists lionized the murderer as a hero and cheered his killing spree as he streamed it live. In fact, he is a monster who slaughtered innocent people — parents and children, the old and the young.

President Trump is not to blame for the tragedy, despite his own history of Islamophobic statements and a travel ban that targets predominantly Muslim nations. Still, he should go further than he has; for starters, by condemning the alleged killer, whose nativist rhetoric — he called immigrants “invaders,” attacked “mass immigration” and wrote that he hoped to “directly reduce immigration rates” — overlaps with the president’s own. On Friday, Mr. Trump cited an “invasion” of immigrants to justify his national emergency declaration to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

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Trump sends the wrong message on New Zealand. World leaders must denounce the attack. - WP Editorial (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2019 OP
There is not anything Trump can say or do to mitigate this or any racist tragedy. gordianot Mar 2019 #1
How can anyone say that Trump isn't to blame? watoos Mar 2019 #2
I hate to get into TheFarseer Mar 2019 #3
It has nothing to do with more outraged than thou, watoos Mar 2019 #4
Once again.... democrank Mar 2019 #5
He is loving the violence. dalton99a Mar 2019 #6
It was a mosque AND didn't happen in Alabama so he doesn't care. yellowcanine Mar 2019 #7

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
1. There is not anything Trump can say or do to mitigate this or any racist tragedy.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:20 AM
Mar 2019

Trump and his toxic rhetoric are to blame. Those who claim Trump is somehow a symptom or that Trump supporters are somehow blameless miss the point of what Fascism really represents.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. How can anyone say that Trump isn't to blame?
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:27 AM
Mar 2019

The Pittsburgh murderer used the same language Trump uses, "invaders."

The NZ murderers used the same language as Trump, "invaders."

Minutes after Trump gave his condolences to the NZ victims and families, he used the word "invaders," regarding our southern border.

Did Trump order the murders of the people in Pittsburgh and NZ, of course not. Did Trump inspire the murderers in Pittsburgh and NZ? How can anyone say he did not? He was even mentioned by name in the manifesto written by the NZ murderer.

Oh and is there any doubt that Trump inspired the guy who sent pipe bombs to Democrats and the press?

I'm not pushing the M$M to blame Trump for the violence, but it needs to point out his hate speech every time he spews it.

When Trump talks about the dangerous people crossing our southern border when is a reporter going to have the guts to ask Trump why he hired so many of those dangerous people at his properties?

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
3. I hate to get into
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:47 AM
Mar 2019

"More outraged than thou" contests. To me, it just comes off as phony and opportunistic. He said it was a tragedy and that's fine. IF he said you know, those guys had a point or I'm sure the shooters were good people too - then we can get all mad.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. It has nothing to do with more outraged than thou,
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:05 AM
Mar 2019

What did Trump say about Charlottesville? He said there are good people on both sides.

Trump offered to do anything to help NZ, I think it was the prime minister of NZ called Trump and asked him to say publicly that he sends his love to the Muslim communities. Trump offered and NZ specified what they wanted.
I will be waiting for Trump to publicly send his wishes of love to the Muslim communities.

dalton99a

(81,534 posts)
6. He is loving the violence.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 11:49 AM
Mar 2019
Mr. Trump, who could not bring himself to criticize the white nationalists in Charlottesville who chanted that minorities (Jews, in that case) would “not replace us,” on Friday said he doesn’t regard white nationalism as a problem. That’s the wrong message. Instead, he ought to state unambiguously that the New Zealand suspect’s “replacement” ideology is an unacceptable trope in civilized discourse.
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