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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,493 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:13 PM Jul 2019

Trump says Wharton shows he's a 'genius.' An admissions officer recalls it differently.

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“It was not very difficult,” Nolan said of the time Trump applied to Wharton in 1966, adding: “I certainly was not struck by any sense that I’m sitting before a genius. Certainly not a super genius.”



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Trump, who often boasts of his Wharton degree, says he was admitted to the ‘hardest school to get into.’ The college official who reviewed his application recalls it differently.

By Michael Kranish
National political investigative reporter
July 8 at 11:00 AM

PHILADELPHIA — James Nolan was working in the University of Pennsylvania’s admissions office in 1966 when he got a phone call from one of his closest friends, Fred Trump Jr. It was a plea to help Fred’s younger brother, Donald Trump, get into Penn’s Wharton School. ... “He called me and said, ‘You remember my brother Donald?’ Which I didn’t,” Nolan, 81, said in an interview with The Washington Post. “He said, ‘He’s at Fordham and he would like to transfer to Wharton. Will you interview him?’ I was happy to do that.”

Soon, Donald Trump arrived at Penn for the interview, accompanied by his father, Fred Trump Sr., who sought to “ingratiate” himself, Nolan said. ... Nolan, who said he was the only admissions official to talk to Trump, was required to give Trump a rating, and he recalled, “It must have been decent enough to support his candidacy.”

For decades, Trump has cited his attendance at what was then called the Wharton School of Finance as evidence of his intellect. He has said he went to “the hardest school to get into, the best school in the world,” calling it “super genius stuff,” and, as recently as last month, pointed to his studies there as he awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to conservative economist Arthur Laffer. ... But Trump, who questioned the academic standing of then-President Barack Obama, has never released records showing how he got into the school — or how he performed once he was there. And, until now, Nolan’s detailed account of Trump’s admission process has not been publicly disclosed. ... Nolan, who spoke to The Post recently at his apartment here, said that “I’m sure” the family hoped he could help get Trump into Wharton. The final decision rested with Nolan’s boss, who approved the application and is no longer living, according to Nolan.
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The claim that Trump was the top student was repeated in a more widely noticed 1976 profile in the Times, once again including his father’s quote about being the “smartest person.” The Times later published stories that questioned whether Trump was a top student at Penn, noting that transcripts are private. ... In fact, Trump’s name was not among top honorees at commencement. Nor was he on the dean’s list his senior year, meaning he was not among the top 56 students in his graduating class of 366. All that is known for certain is that Trump received at least a 2.0 average, or C, enabling him to graduate. A 4.0 is equivalent to an A. ... Penn officials said they are prohibited from releasing Trump’s grades unless he allows it.
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Michael Kranish is a national political investigative reporter for The Washington Post. He is the co-author of The Post’s biography "Trump Revealed," as well as biographies of John F. Kerry and Mitt Romney. He previously was the deputy chief of the Washington Bureau of the Boston Globe. Follow https://twitter.com/PostKranish

Edited: updated title: Trump calls his Wharton attendance ‘genius stuff.’ An admissions officer says otherwise.
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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Golly Gee Whiz.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jul 2019

Lot's of Poking the Bear Stories today. The Accused Rapist will not like this,even his fav Reporter got her name mentioned. Dang,no wonder he is attacking the NYTimes. Gee,just what is he afraid of,the fact that his Supporters will start to see through his phony veneer.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
4. His supporters will NEVER see through the veneer...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:45 AM
Jul 2019

... no matter how much it chips, peels, and falls off.

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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
2. Interesting to learn it was the Orange Idiot's brother who had the contact it took to get him in!
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 02:56 PM
Jul 2019

It would appear Fred Jr., who died so early, was far more like a functioning human being. I'll bet Trump hated his guts and tried to sabotage him as long as he lived. He would never share attention with anyone, beyond all doubt. He probably was a real back-stabbing, stupid monster as a child.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
3. He royally screwed his brother and his family and his sister joined in the ...
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

whole spectacle basically cutting Fred out of the Fred Trump Sr legacy and even interring with insurance for one of Fred Jr's seriously sick children.

Its ugly as hell and very well documented.

If I were Eric Trump I'd be preparing for the worst from his siblings, too.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
7. Maybe because he was never planning to apply for any jobs and believed he was smart enough to
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:59 PM
Jul 2019

run companies... (as it turns out, into the ground).

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
10. We knew from the start he was planning to take over his father's business
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:18 PM
Jul 2019

Given that, I wonder why Fred didn't want an "MBA son."

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
11. Possibilities...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:34 PM
Jul 2019

- perhaps he barely made it through college and for optics, failing at an MBA would be worse than never going for one
- perhaps his grades were so bad that, even with all that $, he couldn’t get an interview
- perhaps he did apply, maybe even interviewed, but no one would take him
- perhaps he just wasn’t willing to do the work because it’d interfere with his wild oats sowing and his golf game and his tv watching

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