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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:51 PM Jul 2019

Trump Is No George Wallace. He's Worse.


By John Judis

July 18, 2019 10:29 am

I keep seeing comparisons between Trump’s racial appeals and George Wallace’s 1968 campaign. Here’s the AP’s Steve Peoples and Zeke Miller: “Not since George Wallace’s campaign in 1968 has a presidential candidate — and certainly not an incumbent president — put racial polarization at the center of his call to voters.” Someone here can correct me if my memory is failing me, but in 1968, Wallace did not make explicit racial appeals.

Wallace talked about state’s rights and the ability of “big government” to dictate whether schools should segregate. In his opening appearance in 1967 in Meet the Press, he said he did not favor “segregation in any phase of our society in any state of this union,” but favored the states being allowed to “continue to determine the policies of their domestic institutions themselves.” His voters often understood his appeals in racial terms, but he was careful not to frame his appeal in white vs. black terms.

Trump’s appeal is much more explicit and personal. Wallace, in retrospect, was a conventional politician who reflected and then later rejected the mores of his time and region. Trump is much more of an irresponsible demagogue. He did not rise out of a political movement the way that, say, Hitler or Mussolini did, but is a peculiar product of our celebrity and social media culture. He’s a bad person — a man lacking in conscience — in a way that Wallace, as his turn later against his segregationist past showed, was not.

I have mixed feelings about the politics of this latest outburst: on one hand, it tempts Democrats into an over-reaction, particularly on issues like immigration; on the other hand, it reinforces the aversion of many voters, including erstwhile Republican voters, to having such an individual represent the country as its and their president.

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Trump Is No George Wallace. He's Worse. (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
I remember during the 2008 campaign that his daughter was an Obama supporter Rhiannon12866 Jul 2019 #1
You knew where Wallace was coming from, standing in front of a confederate flag and all, but Hoyt Jul 2019 #2
trump is very up front about his racism rampartc Jul 2019 #3
Wallace was horrendous. BigDemVoter Jul 2019 #4
George Wallace is far more respectable than Donald Trump Jake Stern Jul 2019 #5

Rhiannon12866

(206,016 posts)
1. I remember during the 2008 campaign that his daughter was an Obama supporter
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:55 PM
Jul 2019

He did come to see the light later in life and obviously passed that on to his daughter.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. You knew where Wallace was coming from, standing in front of a confederate flag and all, but
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jul 2019

I don't remember him whipping up anger/hatred, mocking the disabled, etc., like trump.

rampartc

(5,435 posts)
3. trump is very up front about his racism
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

everyone knew Wallace's famous speech :

"segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever"

so by the time he ran for president he could tone down the overt racism into their watered down "states rights" dog whistle version. trump has no "tone down" dial.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
5. George Wallace is far more respectable than Donald Trump
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jul 2019

By his own admission, Wallace's segregation schtick was to win votes:

"I tried to talk about good roads and good schools and all these things that have been part of my career, and nobody listened. And then I began talking about ni***s, and they stomped the floor."

Plus he openly apologized for his past views and sought forgiveness from African Americans: "I know I contributed to that pain, and I can only ask your forgiveness."

"I was wrong. Those days are over, and they ought to be over."

Could you ever imagine Trump going into a black church and uttering those words?

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