A liberal case for Donald Trump: The lesser of two evils is not at all clear in 2016
Salon is one of my go to sites for reporting and editorials. This one has not aged well though...
WALKER BRAGMAN
APRIL 29, 2016 2:00PM (UTC)
There are perhaps no three words more jarring to liberals than President Donald Trump. The GOP front-runner and presumptive nominee has undoubtedly made enemies with his nativist rhetoric and bellicose persona. That said, now that the race between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton is effectively over, with the former secretary of state essentially guaranteed the nomination, many liberals and progressives are preparing, once again, to vote for the lesser of two evils. The choice may not be as clear as some Democrats believe -- especially if Democrats can take back the Senate and assure themselves of a check on a GOP House.
Once you've let that sink in, try this: There is a liberal case to be made for Donald Trump. The prospect of Trump defeating Clinton this November is not necessarily the apocalypse that some would lead you to believe. Here are some of the reasons why.
1.) Hell Change the Conversation
Perhaps the best thing I can say about Trump is that he speaks his mind. This sometimes leads to some pretty outlandish things, but not always. As Shane Ryan of Paste magazine, pointed out in a recent article, Trump has spent much of his time lately, railing against free trade and NAFTA, as well as the gross inequality in our system. Trump often talks about raising taxes on hedge fund guys, and he has acknowledged that the primary process is skewed in favor of the establishment...
4.) Im Not Afraid of Donald Trump
Some of you might be reading this and thinking to yourselves: Thats all well and good, but Trump is dangerous. I understand those feelings. Donald Trumps messages on social policy have been mixed at best, and fascistic at worst. His approach to climate science is frightening considering the dire situation our planet is in. Trump is also the kind of man who would use the office of the president to aggrandize himself, and punish his detractors well, attempt to do so, like in his many libel and slander suits. Over the last twenty years the powers of the president have expanded considerably as commander-in-chief, and thats concerning, too. Additionally, there is the matter of the Supreme Court of United States.
But lets step back for a moment, and address some important points:
Trump will not transform Americas oligarchy into a fascist dictatorship, nor is he the second coming of Hitler. Our political culture precludes such a shift within any one presidency...
https://www.salon.com/2016/04/29/a_liberal_case_for_donald_trump_the_lesser_of_two_evils_is_not_at_all_clear_in_2016/
cos dem
(903 posts)Basic competency is a minimum qualification. If the candidate is incompetent, the fact that they occasionally utter words that sound good is meaningless.
eppur_se_muova
(36,269 posts)Aristus
(66,387 posts)One could fertilize Kansas with this horseshit...
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)I think everyone was in shock. And many of us HAD to be a least a bit hopeful that ....well, the country's leadership didn't devolve into what it is today.
From Feinstein to Van Jones, and this Salon article. It was partly a projection of what they hoped to see happen. It was long before we found out just how unhinged and narcissistic he was. Even more than we had seen. It was all we could cling to at that time.
LessAspin
(1,154 posts)I thought of that too. Hopefully, going forward, nobody takes for granted that these institutions are foolproof.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)he's a key member in Glenn Greenwald's emoprog twitter mutual masturbation circle and it's not like three years of living under the Trump has made his ass smart all of a sudden.
Nevermind the fact that he's been wrong about literally everything he's penned since.
Some things I do not forgive, and I'd said at the time any supposed "liberal" who stood idly by (or in some cases actively helped) as Trump came to power was going to be dead to me. The stakes are too high... Not only should these Quislings be purged from the left, they should face reprisals -- But that is a discussion for another time...
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emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)to repeat his fucked up propaganda act he did in 2016.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)I don't think DU was. I don't think the USA was. I truly have no idea what you could be talking about. Anyone writing like the Salon article was an illiberal arsehole. We knew it then, and we know it now. He hates Hillary Clinton, and did all he could to stop her being elected. Look at this hit piece from Nov 2015: https://www.salon.com/2015/11/30/more_like_reagan_than_fdr_im_a_millennial_and_ill_never_vote_for_hillary_clinton/
It was obvious to anyone that Trump would be a disaster; we knew he loved killing people (look at his wish for the Central Park Five to be executed, even after their exoneration). There was no area in which he'd be better for anyone (apart from millionaires and despots) than Hillary.
It's not 'unfair' to drag it out; the question is just whether it's worth it. Since Bragman's still an apologist for Trump, despite claiming to be a Sanders supporter, I think it is, so that we're reminded what a piece of shit he is, and know to never trust him:
Link to tweet
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)11cents
(1,777 posts)It sported real investigative journalism by the likes of Murray Waas.
It's long since devolved into an ugly click-farm with zero editorial judgement. In 2016 it not only featured this trust-fund dilettante Walker Bragman, but HA Goodman and Michael Tracey. Months and months of them -- and Goodman in particular was and is obviously mentally disturbed. Like others of their ilk, they've since emerged as white-nationalist-curious Trump supporters.
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(14,681 posts)Karadeniz
(22,537 posts)Nitram
(22,822 posts)dictatorship, nor is he the second coming of Hitler. Our political culture precludes such a shift within any one presidency..." Yes, our institutions have more depth than Trump realizes, and, yes, the system is fairly robust and resilient. But one need only look at the damage Trump has already done, the things he does and says with impunity, to realize how very dangerous he is. There are thousands of children who have been taken from their immigrant parents and may never be reunited. We've just ceded the Middle East to Russian and Iran. But for the loyalty of patriotic civil servants and Democratic Congress members, we would have to take seriously Trump's threats too stay on office for 20 years, to muzzle the press and imprison journalists, and deuce Congress to an impotent branch off government.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Isn't it a violation of DU TOS to post RW talking points?
George Paine
(9 posts)That was so stunningly a bad assessment of Trump, it takes one's breath away.
Trump speaks his mind. Why was this supposed to be a good thing? Abusers, liars, con-men, bullies, sociopaths, narcissists, psychopaths, dictators and murderers all speak their minds.
It's the content of one's mind that counts. Garbage within, garbage out.
"A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury..." is one way to speak your mind.
"This is a terrific investment. You'll make 10% per month, every month, forever!"
"I'm going to murder your children before your eyes. See how you like that!"
It's the content of the mind that is speaking, not the mere fact of speaking.