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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:57 AM Jan 2020

France is losing the battle to save the baguette, warns leading bread historian

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/26/france-losing-battle-save-baguette-warns-leading-bread-historian/

They had me at "leading bread historian"

France is losing the battle to save good bread as a Gallic baking renaissance among a small elite of boulangers has failed to topple the tasteless white baguette, the historian considered the world’s foremost authority on the subject has warned.

Steven L Kaplan, who France has decorated for services rendered to the quintessentially French staple, said that the country was facing a “perfect storm” of factors - from globalisation to complacency - that have blunted the ability of bakers and consumers to care about or even recognise a top quality loaf.

The American historian had long warned that standards were slipping, dating the decline in quality to the 1920s with the transition from slow bread making with a sourdough base to a quick process using yeast. Mechanisation in the 1960s hastened the plunge towards increasingly tasteless bread.

The result has been plummeting daily consumption in France, which has fallen from 600g per person in the late 1880s - two and a half baguettes - to just 80g today - less than a third of a baguette.
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France is losing the battle to save the baguette, warns leading bread historian (Original Post) Recursion Jan 2020 OP
Autolyse improves Bread a lot bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #1
Maybe another reason for the declining marybourg Jan 2020 #2
I think that's a good point. Also, the baguette only dates to WWI Recursion Jan 2020 #5
I knew a donut historian. dawg day Jan 2020 #3
No! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #4
Or it could just possibly be... jmowreader Jan 2020 #6
+1 Mosby Jan 2020 #7
Gluten intolerance ?? Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2020 #8
A little-known fact about modern industrial bread-making. The strains of wheat developed to Nitram Jan 2020 #9

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
1. Autolyse improves Bread a lot
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jan 2020

If you mix water and flour together and let it sit for 30 to 60 minutes or longer, the enzymes in the bread undergo chemical processes that produce a better loaf.

If you also make a small sponge, or mix flour and yeast together as a starter, you can mix that in with salt and a pinch of sugar if that's how you bake.

Autolyse was first suggested about 50 years ago, when bread bakers started making bread rapidly. People noticed that the taste wasn't as good. Autolyse followed by a long cold formant will produce delicious loaves of bread.

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
2. Maybe another reason for the declining
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jan 2020

bread consumption ( two and a half baguettes?) is that the French can now afford more varied and nutritious foods.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. I think that's a good point. Also, the baguette only dates to WWI
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jan 2020

The first time the word appears in print referring to bread is 1920. So, really, the baguette is not what they are trying to save but what they are trying to erase.

(Personally? I love the baguettes at my bakery...)

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. I knew a donut historian.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jan 2020

He was really a cultural historian, but he wrote an article about the history of donuts, and the rep stuck.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
6. Or it could just possibly be...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jan 2020

that the French have figured out eating a pound and a half of bread a day isn’t really good for you.

Nitram

(22,813 posts)
9. A little-known fact about modern industrial bread-making. The strains of wheat developed to
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:03 AM
Jan 2020

provide grain that works best with modern bread-making machines have twice the amount of gluten that traditional grains of wheat had. The machines need a lot tougher dough to work with. I'm not gluten intolerant, and I think the whole gluten issue has been over-hyped, but that is something to think about.

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