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appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
Sat May 2, 2020, 07:36 PM May 2020

Cellphone Monitoring Is Spreading With The Coronavirus; Uneasy Tolerance Of Surveillance

Washington Post, May 2, 2020. ISTANBUL — A smartphone app in Turkey asked for Murat Bur's identity number, his father's name and information about his relatives. Did he have any underlying health conditions, the app wondered, presenting him a list of options. How was he feeling at the moment, it asked. It also requested permission to track his movements. None of this felt intrusive to Bur, a 38-year old personal trainer. The app, which he had voluntarily downloaded, had helpfully warned him that his neighborhood was a coronavirus hot spot. “There are people in our country still having parties and picnics. I do not see the harm in people being followed,” he said. “There is an extraordinary situation in the world.”

To the feelings of fear, restlessness, insecurity and sorrow taking hold around the globe, the pandemic era has added another certainty: being watched.

In a matter of months, tens of millions of people in dozens of countries have been placed under surveillance. Governments, private companies and researchers observe the health, habits and movements of citizens, often without their consent. It is a massive effort, aimed at enforcing quarantine rules or tracing the spread of the coronavirus, that has sprung up pell-mell in country after country.

“This is a Manhattan Project-level problem, that is being addressed by people all over the place,” said John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at Citizen Lab, a research center at the University of Toronto. He is among a group of researchers and privacy advocates who say there is not enough debate over the consequences and utility of the new surveillance tools, and no indication how long the scrutiny will last — even as the flood of prying apps are becoming a reality for millions of people, like solitude and face masks.

Because of the pandemic, surveillance is a “necessary evil,” said Lee Yoon-young, a South Korean university student who was under strict, government-monitored quarantine after returning home from her studies overseas. “I am not disturbed since I understand that stronger quarantine control allows those not under stay-at-home order to continue on with their lives without a nationwide lockdown,” she said.
At least 27 countries are using data from cellphone companies to track the movements of citizens, according to Edin Omanovic, the advocacy director for Privacy International, which is keeping a record of surveillance programs. At least 30 countries have developed smartphone apps for the public to download, he said...

More, https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cellphone-monitoring-is-spreading-with-the-coronavirus-so-is-an-uneasy-tolerance-of-surveillance/2020/05/02/56f14466-7b55-11ea-a311-adb1344719a9_story.html

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Cellphone Monitoring Is Spreading With The Coronavirus; Uneasy Tolerance Of Surveillance (Original Post) appalachiablue May 2020 OP
Wonder how they will 2naSalit May 2020 #1
Soon I think we'll need it for almost everything appalachiablue May 2020 #2
In the cities I can see that... 2naSalit May 2020 #5
You're lucky in a way, in my burb area appalachiablue May 2020 #9
I do enjoy 2naSalit May 2020 #10
mine is in airplane mode most of the time Skittles May 2020 #3
I don't have many calls 2naSalit May 2020 #4
I just cannot imagine doing any business on a screen that small Skittles May 2020 #6
Same here! 2naSalit May 2020 #7
You sound like me Kaiserguy May 2020 #8

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
2. Soon I think we'll need it for almost everything
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:15 PM
May 2020

like in China, from what I understand. Better than an 'ankle bracelet'! for surveillance, now at least.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
5. In the cities I can see that...
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:15 AM
May 2020

out here in the sticks, it's not such a big thing. You can actually still live without a phone. I straddle the line.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
9. You're lucky in a way, in my burb area
Sun May 3, 2020, 12:02 PM
May 2020

near the city things have been going digital, esp. now with the pandemic.

The bank is really pushing for doing digital transactions or visiting by appointment only.

'Brick & mortar' banks and stores are phasing out in many large areas I know from f & f.

Enjoy where you are!

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
4. I don't have many calls
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:13 AM
May 2020

so it really isn't a thing. I suppose if I were to go up in the hills I might turn it off and take in case of emergency along with a can of bear spray but other than that. I don't do banking or browse online or take pictures or participate in any social media other than phone calls and text messages. If a number isn't in my contacts, I won't answer. I tell people who might call to text me first so I will know that they are calling from that number.

I am ready to return to a phone that plugs into the wall.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
6. I just cannot imagine doing any business on a screen that small
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:18 AM
May 2020

nor do I have any desire to!

and I *HATE* talking or texting on the phone

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
7. Same here!
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:32 AM
May 2020

I have to put on my glasses to read anything on it and I refuse to hold a flat thing to my face to talk so I put it on speaker and set it down on the desk. Otherwise it's in a pouch by the door or hooked up to the charger.

ETA: And I hate touchscreens!

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
8. You sound like me
Sun May 3, 2020, 07:00 AM
May 2020

unless you are in my contact list you don't get answered. I view a cell phone as something I can live without 99% of the time.

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