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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:45 PM Apr 2012

The Affordable Care Act - Stronger Benefits to Seniors, Billions in Savings This Year

The Affordable Care Act - Stronger Benefits to Seniors, Billions in Savings This Year
Posted: 04/29/2012 12:09 pm

Two years ago, President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act. The President's health care law gives hard working, middle-class families security, makes Medicare stronger, and puts more money back in seniors' pockets.

Prior to 2011, people on Medicare faced paying for preventive benefits like cancer screenings and cholesterol checks out of their own pockets. Now, these benefits are offered free of charge to beneficiaries.

Over time, the health reform law also closes the gap in prescription drug coverage, known as the "donut hole." This helps seniors like Helen Rayon: "I am a grandmother who is trying to assist a grandson with his education. I take seven different medications. Getting the donut hole closed, that gives me a little more money in my pocket."

In 2010, those who hit the donut hole received a $250 rebate - with almost 4 million seniors and people with disabilities receiving a collective $1 billion. In 2011, people on Medicare automatically received a 50 percent discount on brand-name drugs in the donut hole. Over 3.6 million beneficiaries received more than $2.1 billion in savings - averaging $604 per person last year.

More:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sec-kathleen-sebelius/the-affordable-care-act_b_1462694.html

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
1. Medicare is slowly but surely moving towards a single payer/provider model that can
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:58 PM
Apr 2012

be put in place for all.

If SCOTUS overturns the ACA, the silver lining will be the opportunity to pass a single payer bill. We have to get both houses.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. I'd love to believe that but I am not optimistic that the multi billion dollar health insurance
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:49 PM
Apr 2012

industry will just give up without a fight.

I hope I am wrong. I WANT to be wrong, but sadly, I don't think it's gonna happen...

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. AGree that they won't go down without a fight, but they are already not
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:06 PM
Apr 2012

happy with the changes.

I remain optimistic.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. Is there a way to just get rid of them?
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 03:17 PM
Apr 2012

I mean, can we get Medicare expanded to everyone, while letting the private companies do their thing and see if they can drum up enough business to stay in business?

What exactly would it take to just have that happen?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. My opinion is that we will end up with a 2 tier system.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 03:26 PM
Apr 2012

The single payer/provider will provide basic coverage for everyone, but those who want to buy more can do that privately. They might buy a policy that covers things Medicare doesn't (private rooms, cosmetic procedures, certain medications) and I suspect that there would still be co-pays and deductibles that a secondary policy could cover.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
8. The public option model would allow you to pick between the federally funded
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 03:37 PM
Apr 2012

plan and a private plan. I am thinking it is more likely that everyone would participate in the federal plan (Medicare for All) but you could also purchase additional coverage for things it did not cover.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. This is like what several European countries do. Some people need and buy extra dental
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 05:40 PM
Apr 2012

coverage, for instance.

What some European countries do is have single payer but allow non-profit private organizations to compete for the tax health care dollars. The catch is NON-PROFIT only, by law. So that gives people choices but still cuts out the profit motive of greedy insurance companies. It seems to work well in places like Switzerland and the Netherlands. And I think they have a few for profit companies that offer the "extras" insurance as you referenced (not basic health care).

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
2. How much could they save if we bulk purchased?
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 01:32 PM
Apr 2012

Sigh.

And if they saved $604 how much did they spend? Yikes.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
10. The more drugs the pharma people can get the gullible old people on the more profits they make
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 05:52 PM
Apr 2012

Got an ache or pain? Take this drug. Does it make you have another symptom? Here's another drug. Oh, and now you'll need these three other drugs (and help in remembering when to take them).

Yes, chemicals can save lives and make people better. But seniors are becoming a drugged up group of people - a real boon to big pharma.

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