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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:04 AM Jun 2012

Would picking Rubio for VP be an insult to Hispanics?

Editor's note: Ana Navarro, a Republican strategist and commentator, served as national Hispanic Campaign Chair for John McCain in 2008 and national Hispanic co-chair for Jon Huntsman's 2012 campaign. Follow her on Twitter @ananavarro.

(CNN) -- We don't know who Mitt Romney will pick as his vice presidential nominee. But let's assume for a moment that it's U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida. Would having the first Hispanic on a presidential ticket be a proud historical moment for Hispanics, or would it be an insult?

David Axelrod, President Barack Obama's top campaign strategist, said to Univision that putting Rubio on the ticket would be "an insult to the Hispanic community ... if Gov. [Mitt] Romney thinks that's sort of a get-out-of-jail-free card for all of the things and the positions that he's taken."

My first thought was, "Who made Axelrod the barometer for the entire Hispanic community?" It is disrespectful for Axelrod to tell a community, to which he doesn't belong, how we would feel. Frankly, I find that insulting.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/06/opinion/navarro-axelrod-rubio-insult/index.html

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Would picking Rubio for VP be an insult to Hispanics? (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jun 2012 OP
It depends. Hispanics are not one solitary voting block. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #1
Was appointing Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court and insult to African Americans? SharonAnn Jun 2012 #13
African Americans aren't one standard demographic. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #14
Mitt Romney himself is an insult to hispanics... rfranklin Jun 2012 #2
Chill out. Axel rod did nothing wrong Gman Jun 2012 #3
You're right. We're not a one-size-fits-all. Rozlee Jun 2012 #5
Calling Latinos Mosaic Jun 2012 #4
Sarcasm? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #8
That's not true flamingdem Jun 2012 #12
To answer the question, yes musiclawyer Jun 2012 #6
meh. magical thyme Jun 2012 #7
I dont think having Rubio on the ticket would affect the Latino vote much. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #9
They'll have a hard time packaging him for the hispanic vote flamingdem Jun 2012 #10
Yup dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #11

no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
1. It depends. Hispanics are not one solitary voting block.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:31 AM
Jun 2012

Hispanics can break into groups depending upon their country of origin as found in Cubans, Dominicans, Mexicans, etc. Then they further break into democrats or republicans. And further break into political regions that may have voting variations.

no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
14. African Americans aren't one standard demographic.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:24 AM
Jun 2012

There are families who have been in this country since the colonialists. There are families who have immigrated from countries in the Carribean, also individualized. There are families who have immigrated from Africa, making them a different group of African-Americans.

My point is that some groups are not necessarily homogenized and vote together with mutual interests.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
3. Chill out. Axel rod did nothing wrong
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:23 AM
Jun 2012

Besides, the obvious pandering insult to Hispanics, Rubio would only help in FL. Mexican Hispanics hate Cuban Hispanics. It would cost him in AZ, CO, and other battleground states where there is a large Mexican Hispanic population.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
5. You're right. We're not a one-size-fits-all.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jun 2012

I wouldn't say we Mexican-Americans hate Cubans, but we certainly resent the fact that they can get into the country without papers and be received with open arms because they're a main Republican voting bloc, although among younger Cuban-Americans, that's getting to be a passing trend. And a recent PPP poll showed that a Rubio vice presidency wouldn't help Romney in Florida, which strikes me as odd. Of course, Rubio has that brain on 33/ mouth on 45 that Romney has. And if you don't know what that means, ask someone over 50. The gaffes would be flying with those two. Right now, in Texas, we're watching distastefully as Ted Cruz, a Cuban-American, dukes it out with Dewhurst in the Republican primary. There's been a question of the two men debating in Spanish for Univision. It would be the highlight of my year. Dewhurst speaks fluent Spanish. Cruz admits to speaking "Spanglish." Ay, que menso! Not to mention that Cruz supports building the electrified fence on the border. Do you prefer your Mexicans rare, medium or well done?

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
6. To answer the question, yes
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jun 2012

because whichever GOP idiot advocates such idea assumes that all latinos are one voting block, and most importantly, are stupid.

The days of latino organizations red carpeting people such as Alberto Gonzales just because he has brown skin or can speak spanish are so over. If you are a latino and you get paid by the GOP to advance the GOP agenda you are unamerican because their agenda is unamerican. Period.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. meh.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jun 2012

It was an interview. They asked Axelrod a question and he answered it. He wasn't speaking for the Hispanic community, he represents the Obama campaign and was giving Mitten's some free campaign advice.

The Univision article is closer to reality, in admitting that the GOP needs to double their support among Latinos to have a shot.

Is Obama afraid of Rubio? Maybe. Maybe not. Rising stars have a way of flaming out, certainly among the GOP, because they tend to be 1. nuts, 2. arrogant, 3. half-baked and 4. mouthy.

Maybe there's a little reverse psychology going on. Go ahead, draft Rubio. Watch him follow in the footsteps of your previous rising stars....Baby Jindal, Mooselini, and the rest who've already fallen into the dustbin...


"He would be able to communicate with Latinos like no presidential candidate has before."

Getting a little ahead of ourselves here, aren't we? A la mooselini?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
9. I dont think having Rubio on the ticket would affect the Latino vote much.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:04 AM
Jun 2012

It would give Rmoney some "street cred" with the teabaggers... however, Rubio has a lot of baggage that may not withstand close scrutiny.or vetting.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
10. They'll have a hard time packaging him for the hispanic vote
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jun 2012

- Many Latin Americans / descendants think Cuban Americans are arrogant
- His positions on immigration
- His right winged stinky teaparty tinged with campaign finance abuses
- His phoney victim stories

On the other hand, low information voters and pride voters may fall for voting
for someone who speaks Spanish and has a Spanish surname. Hispanics are
somewhat invisible in government and he'll be a new toy.
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