because that's the only way we (and they, actually) will come through it whole.

This country won't survive another civil war. It will break up into several smaller countries, at the very least, with little in common but the acreage devoted to displaying the headstones of the new honored dead.

to what do you refer? war or revolution or ??????

or the violent responses to the Occupy movement

or that statistic showing the USA beats all others for people imprisoned vs population (creating a permanent underclass with no voting rights, etc,)

or the current union-busting atmosphere, (I'm kinda thinking it's being done to eventually create another slave class..if you folks aren't there already)

or the continuing foreclosure crap

or look at the DHS money (& military equipment donations) to your police forces

or the fact that said police are now looking into armed drone tech


With the way that 'conservatives' or republicans have entrenched themselves in all the major positions of power (by hook or by crook...mostly by crook methinks) they are NOT going to leave quietly

..& with what happened in Wisconsin it's just getting worse. I remember seeing the Rachael Maddow clip showing all the republican campaign donors...vs just one itty-bitty union group for the dems. She then explained it's likely that wisconsin will never go back to to the dems on account of issues like that. & with Walker winning the election you know they will continue to ram legislation through to further weaken the peoples' will to resist big business practices

& I kinda think quite a few elections have been rigged over the last decade or so due to electronic voting (& counting machines), with so many 'anomalies' popping up in so many traditionally democrat areas...what they can't win they'll steal.

How do fight back against that kind of corruption, etc, non-violently? The occupy movement tried but can do nothing about the agent provocateurs & such that give police & other 'authorities' reasons to start busting heads


...you folks are being pushed into a corner. I don't think they are going to give you any options BUT revolution or civil war.

Whatever move towards equality that actually occurs, will not be peaceful.

Power cedes nothing without a struggle. Never did, never will.

We have to find a way to win over the military. Perhaps if enough of their family members are protesting.

Worked in Iran and Egypt to a degree. But if the military is loosed upon us, the blood will flow deep.

War could become nuclear. Warmongers & their families, children & grandchildren will be fine because they are immune to nuclear cataclysm.I actually think the warmongers believe this.

they can get ruptured.. I mean raputred up in to the sky!

One thing the ruling class has consistently failed to take into account is the interactive and pervasive nature of the Internet. Yes, they can push a button and shut it down, but only locally and temporarily. The technology has spread too far too fast for them to control it the way they control, say, the TV news.

Another thing people in general don't realize is how vulnerable the network is. One good EMP (possibly from a dirty bomb) would fry all the unprotected electronics in your city. That includes televisions, computers, routers, phones, auto engines, and anything else with a chip in it.

Just look at DU. Even if it were possible for the ruling class to shut it down, we have been sharing news for years around here. I am always hearing about things here before I hear about them anywhere else. The truth is already out there, and the ruling class can't change that.

By William Strauss and Neil Howe.