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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:44 PM Jun 2012

Air Conditioning: A Luxury the World Can’t Afford

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/06/21/should-air-conditioning-go-global-or-be-rationed-away/air-conditioning-is-a-luxury-the-world-cant-afford

... Cooling of America's buildings and vehicles has the annual global-warming impact of almost half a billion metric tons of carbon dioxide. (Three-fourths of that is attributable to fossil fuels, the rest to refrigerants.) We consume more energy for residential air-conditioning than do all other countries combined, but that's about to change. Home-cooling demand worldwide is projected to increase tenfold before 2050, stimulated by rising incomes and rising temperatures in already-warm regions. Such staggering growth will swamp out efficiency gains, outstrip renewable energy and accelerate warming.

We must break this feedback loop, but what does one say to someone living in one of the tropical nations where much of the increase in cooling demand is expected? Surely not that Americans are addicted to air-conditioning and can’t give it up, but we expect Southeast Asians to get by without air-conditioners because they're used to the heat.

No, there's little we can say until we end our own society's dependence on lavish cooling. Doing that would be a good start, but addressing energy-hungry technologies one at a time won't achieve the greenhouse-gas cuts of as much as 80 percent that science says are necessary to prevent catastrophic warming. Only a per-person ceiling on overall emissions can accomplish that.

Stan Cox is the author of "Losing Our Cool: Uncomfortable Truths About Our Air-Conditioned World (and Finding New Ways to Get Through the Summer)."
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Air Conditioning: A Luxury the World Can’t Afford (Original Post) Newsjock Jun 2012 OP
Air conditioning is my only addiction. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #1
Same here.... it's my only indulgence. femmocrat Jun 2012 #4
Me too, especially at night, but Nancy Waterman Jun 2012 #28
When I was growing up in a small town we didn't have a/c and we got along fine. I lived in MO and libinnyandia Jun 2012 #2
Ah yes, NYC with no A/C. Been there, hated that... Javaman Jun 2012 #18
I was close enough to the water in Bay Ridge that usually sea breezes cooled things a bit.A few libinnyandia Jun 2012 #25
I better find some affordable place in San Francisco, and get out of humid south. Hoyt Jun 2012 #3
I've never seen anyone use the words "affordable" pscot Jun 2012 #11
I wonder how long the author of this sanctimonious bit of drivel TouchOfGray Jun 2012 #5
The author obviously wasn't here in Texas last summer Gman Jun 2012 #6
For most people, I guess it's a luxury. For others it is a health necessity. One might consider.. freshwest Jun 2012 #7
Yeah, right. RC Jun 2012 #8
If air conditioning is outlawed... Speck Tater Jun 2012 #9
It's not possible to reside here or operate a business without AC kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #10
A dressage horse is a luxury. A car elevator is a luxury. Three Cadillacs? Luxury. MADem Jun 2012 #12
Agree 100%. ChazII Jun 2012 #26
Park him in Houston or New Orleans. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2012 #13
no AC here in milwaukee. just went thru 1st heat wave. bearable. pansypoo53219 Jun 2012 #14
Cooling vehicles is more efficient than not unc70 Jun 2012 #15
There's a presupposition that where people live now actually makes good sense caraher Jun 2012 #16
I need AC, humid heat actually makes me feel very sick. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #17
Alternative cooling technologies exist already. cbrer Jun 2012 #19
So true. OldEurope Jun 2012 #20
Google Chrome will translate it ohgeewhiz Jun 2012 #23
I could use some air conditioning right now. Benjamin Parish Jun 2012 #21
Easy enough to say from NYC. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #22
I see it more as a question of priorities. ohgeewhiz Jun 2012 #24
Americans don't care jade3000 Jun 2012 #27

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
4. Same here.... it's my only indulgence.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:03 PM
Jun 2012

I work in a non-AC school building. It is absolutely unbearable in the warmer months. Ironic that we never had AC when I was growing up and didn't realize that we were hot and miserable! LOL

Let's hope that technology can find ways to make AC less destructive to the environment.


Nancy Waterman

(6,407 posts)
28. Me too, especially at night, but
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 08:13 PM
Jun 2012

lots of restaurants and hotels are way over-cooled. People often need sweaters in the middle of summer.
Surely that could be adjusted and save a lot.

libinnyandia

(1,374 posts)
2. When I was growing up in a small town we didn't have a/c and we got along fine. I lived in MO and
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jun 2012

NYC without a/c . Now I have a/c but I set the thermostat high.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
18. Ah yes, NYC with no A/C. Been there, hated that...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:35 AM
Jun 2012

I grew up there and had no A/C at all.

The lovely humid summers taught me how to sleep without moving and to learn to feel, what I liked to call, microbreezes. LOL

Worse yet, when I got my first "real job" at cablevision when I was 24, I worked nights, so that meant I had to sleep during the day. Daytime summer heat with no A/C. I don't think I slept for 2 years straight while on the night shift.

libinnyandia

(1,374 posts)
25. I was close enough to the water in Bay Ridge that usually sea breezes cooled things a bit.A few
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jun 2012

days a year it wss miserable.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I better find some affordable place in San Francisco, and get out of humid south.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:03 PM
Jun 2012

That's not glossing over intent of OP. Keeping system maintained, upgrading, cutting back when you can -- makes a difference. Don't know if it will be enough though.

 

TouchOfGray

(82 posts)
5. I wonder how long the author of this sanctimonious bit of drivel
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:08 PM
Jun 2012

Would survive in Salinas KS or the Midwest, Northeast, Northwest, Europe or most of the world for that matter without "artificial" heating?

Do ya suppose he'll write a piece on "Finding New Ways to Get Through the Winter?"

Gman

(24,780 posts)
6. The author obviously wasn't here in Texas last summer
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:17 PM
Jun 2012

until he can go spend the month of August here in South Texas without AC, he should just STFU.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. For most people, I guess it's a luxury. For others it is a health necessity. One might consider..
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:30 PM
Jun 2012

The environmental effects of heating in colder climates in other times of the year.
A solution for all climates is constructing buildings with passive heat retention or reduction built in. Desert dwellers did it for centuries. Many are doing it now. This has to change.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
8. Yeah, right.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 11:13 PM
Jun 2012

I grew up in Kansas. I still remember seeing my outline in the the sweat on the sheet, after I got up from where I had slept.
This weekend in Kansas City, it is supposed to get to 104°F with high humidity. People die in that heat.

The problem is not too much air conditioning, but too many people and an antiquated power grid being fed by yesterday's technology.
Too many Luddites fighting newer, safer, more efficient and reliable 24/7 energy sources.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
9. If air conditioning is outlawed...
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 11:20 PM
Jun 2012

...only outlaws will have air conditioning.

The reality is we rich, pampered Americans will go right on using our air conditioners right up to the moment that the power grid collapses, or the cost of electricity goes too high for the average person to afford.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
10. It's not possible to reside here or operate a business without AC
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 11:30 PM
Jun 2012

because home and business construction lacks adequate natural ventilation. And it can get 119F here.

I do the best I can not to waste energy. I use fans a lot at home and the doors and windows are always open when I am home (even at night) so I can cool the place down enough that most the time I don't need to turn on the AC. But the office MUST be kept 78ish because my patients (and staff and clients) cannot be subjected to extreme heat.

And the cans of flea spray will leak if it hits 100F inside, which WILL happen easily without AC.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. A dressage horse is a luxury. A car elevator is a luxury. Three Cadillacs? Luxury.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 12:55 AM
Jun 2012

Air conditioning makes very hot swathes of our nation habitable.

Let's put this asshole out in the Mojave and see how he does, and how long it will take him to parse the difference between "necessity" and "luxury."

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
26. Agree 100%.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 06:17 PM
Jun 2012

Spending a day or two in the Mojave or the Sonoran Desert will teach him that air conditioning is not a luxury. The night time lows are in the high 80's to low 90's and very uncomfortable.

As one other poster noted, people from Europe come for a visit and end up in the emergency room or worse dead due to the heat. (Of course where I live it is a dry heat. )

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
13. Park him in Houston or New Orleans.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 01:15 AM
Jun 2012

Where it's hot AND humid. Therefore, the temperature does NOT go down at night, unlike dry climates. I grew up in Houston without central air and my whole family was completely miserable.
When the temperature at midnight is 90 degrees or so, you can't sleep at all. I got a window unit in my room when I was in high school and it blew cold air on my feet. We never had the whole house airconditioned.

I have read that people from Europe will collapse in a Houston parking lot, between their car and the front door, from the heat.

pansypoo53219

(20,978 posts)
14. no AC here in milwaukee. just went thru 1st heat wave. bearable.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 01:42 AM
Jun 2012

just need to make do. hate AC, good for dieting too.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
15. Cooling vehicles is more efficient than not
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:23 AM
Jun 2012

It is more energy efficient with current technology to air condition vehicles than to roll the window down. The extra wind drag is greater than the small amount extra needed for the air conditioning.

Regarding A/C in general, I remember growing up in NC my clothes and shoes would mildew just hanging in the closet.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
16. There's a presupposition that where people live now actually makes good sense
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 08:41 AM
Jun 2012

We've seen population shifts in the US over the past 100 years to hotter areas in part, I think, because we do have AC. Relocating to someplace where temperature and humidity readings are routinely in the 90s is much more appealing if you have the AC technology to make it more bearable. Now we've moved to those places, living in artificial bubbles of temperate climates; perhaps if the notion that life would be literally unbearable without AC we really ought to shift more population back north?

But as others have pointed out, we should look at the climate impact of heating as well. Looking at AC in isolation is a mistake. And unfortunately, I don't think we can all live in the "Goldilocks zone" where it's not too hot, not too cold but is just right all the time. (And where that might be is obviously a matter of opinion anyway!)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
17. I need AC, humid heat actually makes me feel very sick.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:17 AM
Jun 2012

This idiot has obviously never lived in any place with hot, humid summers.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
19. Alternative cooling technologies exist already.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jun 2012

Hell, if you stick a 14" pipe in the ground far enough. And cycle air through it. You will have a heat exchanger that will stay a constant temp. year round.

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
20. So true.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jun 2012

Here at Munich we have the A/C for the data processing centre of BMW using groundwater. We had to pump it up anyway for a culvert at a tunnel for the subway. Sorry, link is available in German only:
http://www.swm.de/geschaeftskunden/m-fernwaerme/m-fernkaelte/bmw.html

Edited to add: Sorry for my bad English, too.

 

ohgeewhiz

(193 posts)
23. Google Chrome will translate it
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jun 2012

and your English is okay!

Groundwater from underground culverts cools Research and Innovation Center of BMW Group: Together with the BMW Group, SWM developed an innovative, resource efficient energy supply: the use of cold groundwater from underground culverts as a coolant for the Research and Innovation Centre (FIZ) of BMW Group.

The Munich-based pilot project "cooling" were particularly impressed by its high energy and pollution savings. It was awarded the 2006 Bavarian Energy Prize. In addition, the project, funded by the Federal Ministry for the Environment, has been promoted by: Nature Conservation and Nuclear Safety and the Bavarian Ministry of Economic Affairs, Infrastructure, Transport and Technology .
 

ohgeewhiz

(193 posts)
24. I see it more as a question of priorities.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jun 2012

We can have a few thousand less trans-oceanic and trans-continental airline flights to deliver people and foods, commute to and from work with a few tens of billions more miles in mass transit instead on one person to an automobile, and we can better utilize each and every non-polluting green technology. Doing so, we could save ten times as much pollution than we use to air condition and refrigerate ourselves and our foods.

jade3000

(238 posts)
27. Americans don't care
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 07:25 PM
Jun 2012

Sadly, Americans really don't care about climate change. You know why? 3 reasons: (1) it's not critically hot enough in most of the country, (2) we have AC, (3) our agricultural base won't be destroyed. It's sad but true. And countries that don't have these advantages generally don't have the political, economic, or military muscle to force climate change policies.

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