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yurbud

(39,405 posts) Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:27 PM Jul 2012

Ed Sec Arne Duncan says use more than test scores to eval teachers

Oddly, what he says here is roughly what happened before corporate education reform and NCLB.

I wonder if this is meant as a sop to teachers to kill any demands for policy change before the election, and then they can go back to teacher bashing after the election.

Mr. Starr said he believed that education reform should focus on incentives to help teachers collaborate and help students learn skills that could not simply be measured by tests.

“It is another example to me of how we’re not focused on the right things in the American education conversation today,” Mr. Starr said. “I have a lot of respect for Arne Duncan,” he added, referring to the secretary of education, “but it’s just sort of moving around the chairs on the Titanic.”

Mr. Duncan, in a telephone interview on Thursday, said states that had received waivers, including New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, would also use a mix of other indicators to evaluate teachers and schools, like how many students actually enrolled in college or took Advanced Placement exams, as well as reviews of teachers by their peers, their students and their principals.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/06/education/no-child-left-behind-whittled-down-under-obama.html?pagewanted=all

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Ed Sec Arne Duncan says use more than test scores to eval teachers (Original Post) yurbud Jul 2012 OP

OMG, just imagine! elleng Jul 2012 #1

and those are as much measures of the community as the teachers yurbud Jul 2012 #2

Of course. elleng Jul 2012 #3

yeah Arne, evaluate them based on union membership and willingness to work for less and less nt msongs Jul 2012 #4

that's probably still the bottom line that makes this seem like a token bone thrown to muddy the yurbud Jul 2012 #5

elleng

(131,076 posts)

1. OMG, just imagine!

Reply to yurbud (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:35 PM

Jul 2012

use a mix of other indicators to evaluate teachers and schools, like how many students actually enrolled in college or took Advanced Placement exams!!!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)

2. and those are as much measures of the community as the teachers

Reply to elleng (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:54 PM

Jul 2012

elleng

(131,076 posts)

3. Of course.

Reply to yurbud (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:19 PM

Jul 2012

It DOES take a village, so one of the problems for U.S. public education over the years has been the way it is financed, largely through property taxes, which directly reflect the wealth, or lack thereof, of the community at issue.

msongs

(67,436 posts)

4. yeah Arne, evaluate them based on union membership and willingness to work for less and less nt

Reply to yurbud (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:05 PM

Jul 2012

yurbud

(39,405 posts)

5. that's probably still the bottom line that makes this seem like a token bone thrown to muddy the