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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 05:58 PM Jul 2012

Not Again! How Our Voting System Is Ripe For Theft and Meltdown in 2012

http://www.alternet.org/story/156252/not_again%21_how_our_voting_system_is_ripe_for_theft_and_meltdown_in_2012?akid=9052.263688.wB_qX9&rd=1&t=2

The most fundamental of democratic processes has become more barrier-filled and error-prone than at anytime since Florida’s 2000 election, when voter list purges, flawed voting technology and a partisan U.S. Supreme Court majority ended a statewide recount and installed George W. Bush as president.

This fall’s potential problems begin with a new generation of voter suppression laws and aging voting machines in a handful of presidential battleground states. And other important factors are in play, such as election officials curtailing voting options due to fiscal constraints, the increasing age of poll workers—volunteers averaging in their 70s—who must referee an ever more complex process, and the likelihood that close races will end up in post-Election Day legal fights.

Voters tell academics they want consistency in voting. Yet emerging trends are poised to upend that hope in many states. This year’s big questions are: where will the meltdown—or meltdowns—occur, what will go wrong, on what scale, and, when it comes to computer failures or tampering, will we even know about it?

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“We need good technology and we need good laws,” said Barbara Simons. The retired IBM computer scientist and nationally known expert on voting technology is co-author of a new book, Broken Ballots: Will Your Vote Count? which details America’s history of voting machinery and election administration, and concludes that many states have neither good technology nor good vote count rules.
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Not Again! How Our Voting System Is Ripe For Theft and Meltdown in 2012 (Original Post) Bill USA Jul 2012 OP
Voting activists tried to get Democratic Leadership interested in truedelphi Jul 2012 #1
I don't understand why this hasn't gotten the singular attention it deserves. Bill USA Jul 2012 #3
Perhaps the answer lays in "collusionary politics" truedelphi Jul 2012 #4
A whole lot of folks feel that way, but they have us fighting each other Lionessa Jul 2012 #7
I think it's STILL! rather than Again! Lionessa Jul 2012 #2
+ 1. n/t truedelphi Jul 2012 #5
I can't believe our DU interest in voting fraud is so insignificant that this has only three recs. Lionessa Jul 2012 #6
Free IDs mailed to everyone? jade3000 Jul 2012 #8

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
1. Voting activists tried to get Democratic Leadership interested in
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 06:09 PM
Jul 2012

This end of the electoral process both in 2004 and 2008, and all points in between.

Dem leaders far more interested in bringing democracy to places like Egypt, or developing drones or even upping the postal rates on small businesses. If the Dems lose elections - it is their own fault for not being pro-active on the election issue.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
4. Perhaps the answer lays in "collusionary politics"
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jul 2012

My belief is that the entire agenda that has been propagated upon our population is clearly the agenda of the One Percent.

And though we "supposedly" have two separate parties, time and again, should we be brave enough to look behind the curtain, we see that there are only a handful of people behind that curtain.


Take two election cycles here in California, in terms of electing a governor. Who is usually in charge of the perso0n running for the gubernatorial slot in California? Diane Feinstein.

Di Feinstein did not come out to help Governor Davis when he was under assault by the Republican Party. They made him out to be a very very bad man, and that story was on the Tube 24/7.

Davis ends up getting recalled. So then we have to have a new election.

I will always believe he was recalled to punish him for selecting an honest group of scientists who got rid of MTBE and this caused Big Oil to lose a great deal of money. So Big Oil got their people to get the word out that Davis was BAD. And everyone inside the party politics knew that Big Oil monies would help elect a new governor. If the candidate was someone the top Republicans approved of


So when it comes for the Democratic Party to put someone on the ballot, they (ie Di Feinstein) chose Bustamente. And on Saturday, one week, he got the attention of the press by saying he would never sell out to special interests, and by Friday of the following week, he arranges a photo op in which he is being handed a $ 200,000 check for his election campaign. This story with a huge picture ran as page one in every daily in the state. This check had been made out by the Upper One Percent of an Indian Tribe that wanted casino rights. So Bustamente is only two weeks into the campaign, if even that, and he looks like a rotten piece of trash.

Who told him to have the Saturday press conference? Who told him to have the following Friday press conference? Why would anyone do that?

And why would Di Fi even have chosen Bustamente? He was totally unknown, except for political wonks inside party politics. He was up against a very charismatic well known movie star, "Ahnold" Schwartzennegger. So guess who won?

Same thing happened the following time that Ahnold ran for governor - Di Fi hand chooses this rguy with the appeal of a rodent, one Phil Angelides, who is unknown to people in the northern part of the state, and known mainly for his perhaps shady business deals in Southern California. And consider this: Di Fi had a real choice this time, as this time, a Mr Westly, who had charisma and had captured the public's attention and imagination, had thrown his hat in the ring.

But the meme came down from Party headquarters that Phil Angelides had "done more for the party" so Di Fi ignored the preferences of the voters.

And once again the Democratic candidate lost to Ahnold. Why did all this happen?

People in the USA have clear cut notions of what it means to be a Republican, and what it means to be a Democrat, but the fact of the matter is that people like Di Feinstein run things, and it should be noted that she and her husband Richard Blum and the George Schultzes have been very good friends for many years. Ninety percent of what we hear about in the papers is kabuki theater, while the country gets thrown further and further to the right.

Real chances for any decent people (Like Jackie Spiers, or Garamendi, or even moderate Republican Tom Campbell of East Bay in San Francisco area) ever get a chance to be a Senator or sit on an important committee. It's all handled by the people at the top, whose philosophy is very much about screwing the middle class while pretending they really care about us.

But then, I guess that's why they get the Big Bucks.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
7. A whole lot of folks feel that way, but they have us fighting each other
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:58 PM
Jul 2012

They're great marketers, they know that some respond to some keywords, while others are likely to respond to the opposite, so they throw those all around, get us fighting each other when 67-85% us want the same thing, and they snicker while robbing us all blind.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
6. I can't believe our DU interest in voting fraud is so insignificant that this has only three recs.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jul 2012

I forgot to, and am doing so now? Anyone else forgetting and need a reminder?

jade3000

(238 posts)
8. Free IDs mailed to everyone?
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 11:39 PM
Jul 2012

A couple of states have, sort of, partially tried this. It seems like a forceful free IDs program should be required as part of any of these proposals. But then I see stories like this, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-bottari/wisconsin-voter-id-_b_954976.html, and I'm reminded that this is really about keeping poor people from polls.

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