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brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 07:09 AM Jul 2012

Businessweek: What's Romney Hiding in His Tax Returns?

As George Will and many others have noted, there must be something truly damaging in Romney’s pre-2010 tax returns for him to willingly endure the criticism and scrutiny that has accompanied his refusal to release them—a refusal he reiterated on Friday, even as the issue, and the matter of his departure date from Bain Capital, has engulfed the campaign. “The cost of not releasing the returns are clear,” Will said on ABC’s This Week on Sunday. “Therefore, he must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing them.”

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When the stock market collapsed in 2008, the wealthiest investors fared worse than everyone else. (See, for instance, this Merrill Lynch study.) The “ultra-rich”—those with fortunes of more than $30 million—fared worst of all, losing on average about 25 percent of their net worth. “There was really nowhere to hide as an investor in 2008,” Merrill Lynch’s president of global wealth management pointed out in 2009. “No region ended the year unscathed.”

As a member of the ultra-rich, Romney probably wasn’t spared major losses. And it’s possible he suffered a large enough capital loss that, carried forward and coupled with his various offshore tax havens, he wound up paying no U.S. federal taxes at all in 2009. If true, this would be politically deadly for him. Even assuming that his return was thoroughly clean and legal—a safe assumption, it seems to me—the fallout would dwarf the controversy that attended the news that Romney had paid a tax rate of just 14 percent in 2010 and that estimated he’d pay a similar rate in 2011.

The “zero tax in 2009” theory—again, this is sheer speculation—gains further sustenance when you consider it’s the only year for which nobody knows anything about Romney’s taxes. He’s revealed what’s in his 2010 and 2011 returns, and he reportedly submitted 20-some years’ worth of returns to the McCain campaign when he was being vetted for vice president in 2008. Steve Schmidt, McCain’s chief strategist in that campaign, said on MSNBC last night that while he didn’t examine Romney’s returns himself, nothing that McCain’s vetters found in them disqualified Romney from consideration.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-17/whats-romney-hiding-in-his-tax-returns


Hmm, moving out of the political realm into the business world...
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Businessweek: What's Romney Hiding in His Tax Returns? (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2012 OP
Good stuff. Skinner Jul 2012 #1
This is the smoking gun Dalai_1 Jul 2012 #2
Most likely he paid nothing and then safeinOhio Jul 2012 #3
I suspect this is it, possibly combined with the Swiss amnesty. hifiguy Jul 2012 #4
Krugman suggests the alternate theory that Romney made out like a bandit in 2008-09 starroute Jul 2012 #5
good post..... Bill USA Jul 2012 #6
If He Realized Enough Losses On the Road Jul 2012 #7
Doesn't matter if it's "legitimate" brooklynite Jul 2012 #8
This sounds plausible. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #9
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. I suspect this is it, possibly combined with the Swiss amnesty.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jul 2012

I'd bet Mittwit paid nothing in taxes or got a nice fat refund while still remaining stinking, filthy rich. Which will go over with the just-starting-to-pay-attention masses like a Virginia ham at a Passover seder. Willard is hiding some really ugly stuff in one of those years, whether it was technically legal or not.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
5. Krugman suggests the alternate theory that Romney made out like a bandit in 2008-09
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jul 2012

The attention is definitely focusing on those two years, since McCain's people saw the earlier returns and Romney released 2010. But exactly what happened then is still in question. No taxes? Swiss bank account? Or this:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/17/decoupled-and-divided/

There are two competing theories about his tax stonewalling. One is that he had one or more years of zero taxes. The other is that he actually made a lot of money in 2009, because he shorted the market. We may never know which is true.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
7. If He Realized Enough Losses
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:14 PM
Jul 2012

they might have outweighed his income, which was true of a lot of rich people that year. In that case, it might have been legitimate.

Still not going to fly very well with independent voters.

brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
8. Doesn't matter if it's "legitimate"
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jul 2012

It will be impossible to justify politically, and will generate demands for an in-depth analysis of his tax returns to determine which shelters, credits etc. in the tax code allowed him to pay nothing.

The BIGGER question is: if he knew he was running for office, why he didn't forego the extra million dollars or so in order to have a tax return he could share.

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