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Uncle Joe

(58,417 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 12:55 PM Oct 2023

Opinion Israel Can't Imprison Two Million Gazans Without Paying a Cruel Price



Behind all this lies Israeli arrogance; the idea that we can do whatever we like, that we’ll never pay the price and be punished for it. We’ll carry on undisturbed.

(snip)

On Saturday, Israel saw pictures it has never seen before. Palestinian vehicles patrolling its cities, bike riders entering through the Gaza gates. These pictures tear away at that arrogance. The Gaza Palestinians have decided they’re willing to pay any price for a moment of freedom. Is there any hope in that? No. Will Israel learn its lesson? No.

(snip)

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu bears very great responsibility for what happened, and he must pay the price, but it didn’t start with him and it won’t end after he goes. We now have to cry bitterly for the Israeli victims, but we should also cry for Gaza.

Gaza, most of whose residents are refugees created by Israel. Gaza, which has never known a single day of freedom.

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-10-09/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israel-cant-imprison-2-million-gazans-without-paying-a-cruel-price/0000018b-1476-d465-abbb-14f6262a0000

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Opinion Israel Can't Imprison Two Million Gazans Without Paying a Cruel Price (Original Post) Uncle Joe Oct 2023 OP
careful there! we are apparently culling stopdiggin Oct 2023 #1
strip away "who was here first" GenXer47 Oct 2023 #2
Haaretz is doing a pretty good job of threading the needle on this crisis Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #3
Hamas and Israel maliaSmith Oct 2023 #4
Is it just the beheading? ExciteBike66 Oct 2023 #12
Should have guessed who the author was. Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #5
I don't view explanations or analysis of events in the same light Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #6
Victim blaming is bullshit. Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #7
I agree. Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #8
Do you really? Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #9
Absolutely, I wouldn't have said if I didn't believe it. Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #11

stopdiggin

(11,360 posts)
1. careful there! we are apparently culling
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 01:13 PM
Oct 2023

any semblance to 'two sides of a story' in the past couple of days.

The horrors committed by Hamas (and they clearly are horrible, despicable and utterly inhumane) - have apparently short-circuited any need for mention of any transgression or contribution on the part of Israel. Expect to be shouted down shortly ..

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
2. strip away "who was here first"
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 01:56 PM
Oct 2023

and all I see is a rich, nuclear power bullying and oppressing some of the poorest people on the planet.
I appreciate you sharing this article because all the media does is show human stories, with faces and families, on the Israeli side; and long-distance shots of destruction porn on the Gaza side.
Israel "demolishes buildings" while Hamas "murders and decapitates". No opportunity for a Gazan mother to stall the IDF with coffee and cookies when the pilot who's about to wipe out her entire bloodline is cruising at 3000 feet.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,656 posts)
3. Haaretz is doing a pretty good job of threading the needle on this crisis
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 02:03 PM
Oct 2023

And not succumbing to war fever or blind patriotism.

If only such courageous journalism was more common in the US.

maliaSmith

(80 posts)
4. Hamas and Israel
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 02:24 PM
Oct 2023

Hamas won't win any sympathy for Palestine after beheading innocent babies.
You lost me when you started beheading innocents and murdering grandmas. Go Israel.

ExciteBike66

(2,374 posts)
12. Is it just the beheading?
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 03:00 PM
Oct 2023

Or is merely killing innocents enough? Israeli bombs may or may not behead their victims, but they kill innocents aplenty...

Behind the Aegis

(53,983 posts)
5. Should have guessed who the author was.
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 02:29 PM
Oct 2023


Meet the Jews defending Hamas
Hundreds of protesters gathered outside the Israeli consulate in New York City Monday for what might be considered the opposite of a peace rally: “No peace on stolen land,” the demonstrators chanted.

The Emergency Rally for Gaza was organized after Palestinian militants broke through the fence enclosing the seaside enclave Saturday and rampaged through towns in southern Israel, killing dozens of soldiers and hundreds of civilians, and kidnapping more than 150 others, including women, children and the elderly.

A graphic promoting the rally on social media declared that its goal was to “defend Palestinian resistance” and “honor the martyrs of Palestine.”

Among the event’s key sponsors were three anti-Zionist Jewish groups including Not In Our Name, which is based at the City University of New York, and Judaism On Our Own Terms, which was founded more than a decade ago as Open Hillel.

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Uncle Joe

(58,417 posts)
6. I don't view explanations or analysis of events in the same light
Wed Oct 11, 2023, 02:37 PM
Oct 2023

as a defense of its' occurrence.

I don't see anything in the OP regarding defending Hamas.

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