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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 08:23 AM Feb 16

MAGA fatigue and the "exhaustion of outrage addiction"

MAGA fatigue and the "exhaustion of outrage addiction"
"Tucker Carlson being summoned to Moscow is not a show of strength. It’s evidence of weakness"

By CHAUNCEY DEVEGA
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 16, 2024 5:45AM (EST)


(Salon) Last weekend the American mainstream news media, especially its elite agenda-setting outlets such as the New York Times, had a choice to make. They could repeat and amplify the nakedly partisan, inaccurate, unprofessional, editorializing, “report” by former Trump regime member special counsel Robert Hur about President Joe Biden’s non-existent classified documents “scandal” and his supposed “memory problems,” or they could instead focus on how Donald Trump is continuing with his threats and promises to be a dictator, create a concentration camp system and engage in illegal mass deportations of hundreds of thousands of black and brown undocumented residents that will involve martial law and an invasion by the military of “blue states” before giving Vladimir Putin permission to attack Western Europe.

....(snip)....

In an attempt to gain some clarity about this increasingly bewildering “longest election ever," what the early public opinion polls mean and how many political observers are deeply concerned that the 2024 election is increasingly feeling like a repeat of the disastrous 2016 election, I recently asked a range of experts for their thoughts and suggestions.

Matthew Dallek teaches at George Washington University and is the author of “Birchers: How the John Birch Society Radicalized the American Right.”

I struggle to understand how 47/48 percent of voters can continue to support Trump and, by extension, his cruelty, conspiracy theories, and criminality. Tens of millions of Americans believe the big lie that 2020 was stolen from Trump, and they have such scant faith in the judicial system that they buy Trump’s baseless conspiracy theory that Democrats orchestrated a plot to put him in jail. My feeling that I’m out of touch is worsened by my belief that Joe Biden has been a good president. He has passed emergency COVID aid, infrastructure reform, landmark climate change legislation, the CHIPs Act boosting US manufacturing, achieved some student debt relief, appointed the nation’s first African-American woman to the Supreme Court, and inflation has come way down, while the US has enjoyed the best post-Covid economy of any advanced industrial country. His leadership on Ukraine has been resolute, measured, and grounded in values like national self-determination and anti-authoritarianism. I’ve heard the knocks against him, but the perils of a second Trump term – to democracy, the rule of law, mainstreaming political violence and Trumpian vengeance—are far more dire than any of Biden’s defects, real or perceived. “The longest election” in U.S. history is a trope that doesn’t hold much explanatory power for me. The primary is likely to be over soon, but Trump has never stopped campaigning, and Biden has long spoken of the risks Trump poses to democracy and stability. I think the “longest election” is likely shorthand for a jaded sense among some in the press corps, and affirmed by polling, that the country has to endure a Trump-Biden rematch.

....(snip)....

Investigative reporter and author Heidi Siegmund Cuda writes about U.S. politics and culture for Byline Times and Byline Supplement.

As a practical matter, what does this “longest election” mean? There will be staged horror events daily, forcing Biden to fight too many fronts, but this is because Trump does not have the votes. So, these are not signs of strength. Tucker Carlson being summoned to Moscow is not a show of strength. It’s evidence of weakness. From Kansas to Ohio, it is clear that voters are waking up to the stakes — overwhelmingly showing that women’s health care rights matter, as people quietly exit MAGA. The dark money villains who cynically fund organizations that weaponize people to destroy their own democracy now realize they overshot the mark when Roe was overturned. So, they find new targets, new boogeymen, to take over from the diabolical plot that turned people into single-issue voters. They take aim at trans people, immigrants, books, Taylor Swift, whatever sells in the much coveted 18 to 49 demo. But they’re failing, as the exhaustion of outrage addiction has given way to a fatigue and desire for some semblance of democratic normalcy. ...............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/16/maga-fatigue-and-the-exhaustion-of-outrage-addiction/




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MAGA fatigue and the "exhaustion of outrage addiction" (Original Post) marmar Feb 16 OP
" quietly exit MAGA." Should we start a buy-a-MAGA-a-brew trend? bucolic_frolic Feb 16 #1
My brother in law died this weekend outrage addiction was certainly part of it. Woodwizard Feb 16 #2
Continuous anger derodes the body, mind and spirit. Best to you and your family riversedge Feb 16 #5
IMHO, it is too early to say MAGA is failing, much too early. riversedge Feb 16 #3
I get the feeling... 2naSalit Feb 16 #4
I've had conversations with a few Magats lately, Mr.Bill Feb 16 #6
+1. yonder Feb 16 #7
I am in agreement with Mr.Bill Feb 16 #8

Woodwizard

(843 posts)
2. My brother in law died this weekend outrage addiction was certainly part of it.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 08:53 AM
Feb 16

He was one of those people that always complained his rantings slowly pushed people away.

He had no boundaries, reveled in being rude and obnoxious of course was a trump supporter, listened to rush all the time when he was alive.

He just shriveled up into a ball of hate spewing narcissistic nastiness. He had a heart attack Sunday at 66.

I believe misery and hate is certainly addictive for some people, even some on here with the knee jerk comments I see before the facts are even out in the latest breaking news.

Take a breath think for a minute before the anger.

riversedge

(70,221 posts)
3. IMHO, it is too early to say MAGA is failing, much too early.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 09:11 AM
Feb 16

The GOP rich are filled with deep money pockets. Just too early. Stay strong Democrats. Stay vigilant.


..........They take aim at trans people, immigrants, books, Taylor Swift, whatever sells in the much coveted 18 to 49 demo. But they’re failing, as the exhaustion of outrage addiction has given way to a fatigue and desire for some semblance of democratic normalcy. ...............(more)

2naSalit

(86,622 posts)
4. I get the feeling...
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 10:21 AM
Feb 16

Especially after the Iowa and NH caucus/primary events, that there aren't really all that many magats as there used to be. The actual voter count was pretty tiny, you can pull a stat from a very small number of cases so percentages are deceiving at best when you don't know the initial sample size.

So, what = n when it comes to magats and magats who actually vote? All these reports show a percentage of n so we really don't know how many actual voting magats are out there in the real world.

I suspect this is done on purpose to obscure the actual size of the base these days. I saw a tabulation last night, I think it was on The 11th Hour, showing in percentages, even those numbers have declined by double digits which gave me the impression that the actual number of voting magats could be far less than we are being told by a no-so-much-on-our-side media.

Something to keep in mind when we're being shown poll numbers in percentages, you also need to know how big the sample size was for the survey. Otherwise, you're being prompted to respond emotionally, don't take the bait. Take a moment or two and ask the question, "...and just how many is that in real numbers?" because too many still assume that it's a third of our population which I think is a mistake. Those numbers I saw last night showed that a possible 30% has declined to a probable 20% or less overall number of actual magats out there. Could be more drastic than that. If it's gone from an estimated 1/3 has shrunk to 1/5, we're making progress even if that just means more of us have survived magatwerld than the true magats.




Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
6. I've had conversations with a few Magats lately,
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 02:40 PM
Feb 16

and I do sense some fatigue. But they say they are still voting for Trump, or anyone but Biden. They still say Biden has crashed the economy, inflation is out of control. the price of gas is going up, Biden has full blown dementia and doesn't even know his own name as he staggers around the whitehouse bumping into walls, while millions of Chinese terrorists cross the border, each of them driving a truck load of fentanyl.

The best we can hope for is they go back to being the same ignorant fools they were that don't watch the news because it's too depressing, and they just don't vote at all. Most of them would forget about politics completely if you just gave them some bigger wheels for their trucks.

yonder

(9,666 posts)
7. +1.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 04:57 PM
Feb 16

I get a similar sense. Though we're nine months away from November and the timbre will undoubtedly change, the chest thumping, flag waving, rah-rah just doesn't seem to be there to the same extent as this time four years ago.

However, it seems our mainstream media's ability to quickly shape narrative and opinion as they wish has become more apparent. It's like the mask is dropped and the gloves have come off — no need to even pretend anymore — they can now turn on a dime and with it, turn exhaustion to energy. Of all the beasts lurking to gain advantage, they're the ones to be wary of.

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