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alp227

(32,019 posts)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:32 AM Sep 2012

Traffickers Go Under the Sea to Smuggle More Drugs

For more than 24 hours last September, a Coast Guard helicopter and speedboat pursued drug traffickers and their contraband across the Caribbean Sea. Finally they caught up with the improbable vessel, the latest innovation in the decades-old drug war. It was a submarine.

The low-slung, diesel-propelled vessel, painted a dark shade to blend with the water, was believed to be carrying several tons of cocaine. But after the submersible’s crew scuttled the vessel and abandoned ship, the Coast Guard was able to salvage only two 66-pound bales of narcotics.

This is the new challenge faced by the United States and Latin American countries as narcotics organizations bankroll machine shops operating under cover of South America’s triple-canopy jungles to build diesel-powered submarines that would be the envy of all but a few nations.

After years of detecting these craft in the less trafficked Pacific Ocean, officials have seen a spike in their use in the Caribbean over the last year. American authorities have discovered at least three models of a new and sophisticated drug-trafficking submarine capable of traveling completely underwater from South America to the coast of the United States.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/world/americas/drug-smugglers-pose-underwater-challenge-in-caribbean.html?pagewanted=all

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Traffickers Go Under the Sea to Smuggle More Drugs (Original Post) alp227 Sep 2012 OP
All fueled by the exorborant prices prohibition creates Scootaloo Sep 2012 #1
So legalize NARCS? alp227 Sep 2012 #2
It's not about what makes you comfortable Scootaloo Sep 2012 #3
I completely agree. The Drug War is a waste of time, money and resources. Th1onein Sep 2012 #4
Please think again! malcolmkyle Sep 2012 #5
cocaine isn't even physically addictive frylock Sep 2012 #6
Here ya go. Has been going on for some time. GiveMeFreedom Sep 2012 #7
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. All fueled by the exorborant prices prohibition creates
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:51 AM
Sep 2012

The DEA could intercept 90% of the stuff, and the profit return would still be high enough that it wouldn't halt (and demand would go up, thanks to addiction, so higher prices!)

alp227

(32,019 posts)
2. So legalize NARCS?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:57 AM
Sep 2012

I understand legalizing cannabis but am not too comfortable with legalized COCAINE.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. It's not about what makes you comfortable
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:04 AM
Sep 2012

It's about what functions. The "War on Drugs" is an absolute debacle, no matter what drug you're talking about. The rationales behind it are flimsy, the execution is awful and lopsided, the penalties are either laughable or insane - inversely proportional to the wealth of the convicted, no less! - and it leads to more crime in every case.

Not comfortable with cocaine being legalized? That's cool, I'm uncomfortable with the notion of how many men and women in the Latin American and US police forces die annually trying to halt the flow of the stuff - and failing to achieve that goal.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
4. I completely agree. The Drug War is a waste of time, money and resources.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:11 AM
Sep 2012

Legalize it ALL. Tax it and regulate it. Addicts are going to get their drugs, no matter what. Why do the rest of us have to pay such a high price in order to control THEIR addictions?

malcolmkyle

(39 posts)
5. Please think again!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:06 AM
Sep 2012

I'm sure we both agreed that smoking tobacco should not be encouraged, yet we do not threaten tobacco users with arrest and imprisonment. Now consider dangerous sports, such as mountain climbing. - The death rate on Mount Everest is about one in ten of those who make it successfully, which is a vastly higher mortality rate than just about any drug used at present in a recreational manner.

Maybe you believe that it's immoral to use a certain drug, but if you also wish such acts to become/remain criminalized then surely you also have to accept responsibility for the dire unintended consequences of such folly, when these certain plants/concoctions/drugs are then sold only by criminals and terrorists; when the huge black-market profits are used to bribe and threaten law enforcement officials when the availability and usage rates tend to go up, not down; when our prisons become filled to capacity with easily replaced vendors and smugglers - this list is actually endless!

Add to all that the fact that law enforcement and rehabilitation are mutually exclusive. Would alcoholics seek help for their illness if doing so were tantamount to confessing to criminal activity? Likewise, would putting every incorrigible alcoholic behind bars and saddling them with criminal records prove cost-effective? I think most of us already know the answer.

GiveMeFreedom

(976 posts)
7. Here ya go. Has been going on for some time.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sep 2012

Signal Mountain, TN (PRWEB) April 21, 2010

The newest privately released book on the US market called, Drug Subs (http://www.drugsubs.com) will forever change readers' ideas about the safety net of the United States security.
According to DrugSubs.com, 30% of all the cocaine in the US worth $21 billion dollars is smuggled in by fiberglass semi submersible fiberglass submarines manufactured deep in the jungles of Columbia?





http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/04/prweb3899004.htm

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