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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:38 AM Sep 2012

RAVITCH: 50% drop in enrollment in teacher training? Are We Decimating the Teaching Profession?

Two stats here show the urgency of stopping for-profit, corporate-dictated public school "reform" in it's tracks:

In 1988, teachers had about 15 years experience, today it's ONE year.

That wouldn't be bad if it was just from a bunch of old farts retiring, but in conjunction with a 40% drop in new teachers credential over six years and a 50% decline in enrollment in education majors in California shows students are seeing teaching as a risky choice at best as a major.

Those who want to beat up traditional public schools with endless standardized testing to prove they are failing then replace them with for profit charter schools or education management companies can stuff their pockets with cash, pat themselves on the back, and get all the amens they want from the media, but they have made the teaching profession radioactive with their constant teacher bashing, micromanaging, and mass firings.

That is not a recipe for future success.

Are We Decimating the Teaching Profession?

by dianerav

An earlier post described research showing that experienced teachers are leaving the profession in droves. In 1988, the modal number of years of teacher experience was 15 (meaning there were more teachers with 15 years experience than any other cohort). By 2008, the modal years of teacher experience was ONE. There were more first-year teachers than any other group. This can't be good for children or for the quality of education as every study I have ever seen says that first year teachers are the weakest of all because they are brand-new and just learning the ropes (sorry, TFA). There are anecdotal reports that enrollment in teacher education programs is plummeting. Here is more:

This was in my local paper on September 11, 2012: “The number of teaching credentials issued from 2004-2010 dropped by 40%, while the number of college students in teacher training programs plunged by 50% This comes from the Task Force Report on Teacher on Education Excellence (State of CA) which also stated, “The state has focused too heavily on holding teachers accountable for standardized test scores without properly equipping instructors and schools. This dangerous combination has driven many accomplished educators out of the profession.” Does this surprise anyone? I personally know of first and second year teachers who have bailed because of pressure applied by their site principals. Instead of supporting them, they have been overbearing in their expectations causing potentially wonderful teachers to second guess their choice of careers and leave. Not just move to another school, but leave the profession they worked so hard to join. We are losing a generation of students to the almighty test score. Do we want to continue to lose great teachers as well? Our children ARE our future. Invest in their future by investing in their teachers who are highly trained professionals.


dianerav | September 18, 2012 at 8:05 am | Categories: Education Reform, Teachers and Teaching | URL: http://wp.me/p2odLa-1Y9
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RAVITCH: 50% drop in enrollment in teacher training? Are We Decimating the Teaching Profession? (Original Post) yurbud Sep 2012 OP
I think that's the plan tularetom Sep 2012 #1
or from Wall Street's POV, some software or a website that they can profit from yurbud Sep 2012 #4
I don't know why anyone would consider that profession anymore. denverbill Sep 2012 #2
I've said before that if I wanted that kind of shitty treatment, I'd work in the private sector... yurbud Sep 2012 #3
Spot on! Bozita Sep 2012 #8
teachers get shit on even in media and popular culture, too Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #17
this is what comes from celebrating ignorance (aka: Tea Party Conservativism) Bill USA Sep 2012 #5
The objective is to destroy free public education. bemildred Sep 2012 #6
So in 5 years, school boards are going to have to pay teachers premiums to attract them Squinch Sep 2012 #7
the painful part will be between now and then yurbud Sep 2012 #9
Yes, but if enrollments are down 50%, it will begin within a couple of years. Squinch Sep 2012 #10
that could make it hard for the privatizers to get their mcteachers too. yurbud Sep 2012 #12
Absolutely. If teachers are paid more, the profit margin drops and the privatizers will disappear. Squinch Sep 2012 #13
at least hedge fund managers could make a tidy profit betting on their collapse yurbud Sep 2012 #14
Did you see the news today? News Corp owns the testing company Chicago uses. Squinch Sep 2012 #15
wow--have someone educate your kids WHO MAKES GROWN UPS STUPIDER yurbud Sep 2012 #16
SHITTY PAY, asshole parents, bratty kids, and an administration BigDemVoter Sep 2012 #11

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. I think that's the plan
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:43 AM
Sep 2012

We don't need no steenking teachers. In fact we don't need schools. Or books. Just the bible. Your pastor will teach you everything you need to know.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
4. or from Wall Street's POV, some software or a website that they can profit from
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:36 PM
Sep 2012

telecommuting for kids.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
2. I don't know why anyone would consider that profession anymore.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 11:46 AM
Sep 2012

Half of America, including Rahm Democrats and all Republicans, treat teachers with disdain. Why put up with the contempt, the low pay, the standardized testing, abusive kids and parents? People used to go into teaching because the loved the job. What's to love now?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
3. I've said before that if I wanted that kind of shitty treatment, I'd work in the private sector...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:27 PM
Sep 2012

but a friend who works in corporate HR said smart businesses avoid those kind of abusive practices to keep the best, most motivated workers.

This is what happens when you get the Wall Street types involved. They just see how to squeeze the most profits out of something even if it means choking it to death.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. teachers get shit on even in media and popular culture, too
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:32 PM
Sep 2012

decades of making an honored profession the punchline of a joke has paid off...

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. The objective is to destroy free public education.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:11 PM
Sep 2012

From that point of view, this is great, no professional teachers, no teachers unions, just EduCorp telling our kids what to think.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
7. So in 5 years, school boards are going to have to pay teachers premiums to attract them
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012

and charter schools won't be able to compete with the premium salaries and still return chunks of money to the corporate shareholders.

And we'll look back and ask ourselves, "Why didn't we just give them a little raise when we had the chance?"

Sorry, but this is making me happy.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
13. Absolutely. If teachers are paid more, the profit margin drops and the privatizers will disappear.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 09:46 PM
Sep 2012

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
15. Did you see the news today? News Corp owns the testing company Chicago uses.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 05:59 PM
Sep 2012

Gosh, why might Fox News be so anti teachers' union and pro testing?

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
11. SHITTY PAY, asshole parents, bratty kids, and an administration
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:26 PM
Sep 2012

that doesn't give a fat frog's ass about teachers. . . . It's plain & simple. I was a teacher for 12 years, and the abuse, disrespect, poverty wages, and being asked to fulfill about 10 different "extracurricular" roles with no extra pay really chapped my ass.

Nowadays, teachers not only have to deal with all of the above S-H-I-T, but they also have to live with the threat of lay-offs. Who the fuck ever heard of laying off teachers before?

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