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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 05:32 PM Oct 2012

Politifact says Obama statement re Romney's equating Trump to a small business gets a 'false' rating

Auditing the Fact-checkers for legitimacey (of their rationalization of their judgements)

Are the people at Politifact playing dumb? Well, they're really stretching credulity with this one.

What I DO know they are doing, as they have in the past, is trying to find ways to judge statements by Demcrats as 'false' or 'questionable' so as to keep the balance (between Obama & the Democrats versus Romney and Republicans) from going too embarassingly hard against Romney and the Republicans. Thus, they have to come up with very questionable or outright fraudulent judgements against Obama and other Democrats.

In the review linked to below they say Obama gets a "false" for saying: "Under Gov. Romney's definition ... Donald Trump is a small business."

They go into a long discussion of technical definitions of what is a small business, going by number of employees or revenues. Then they say at the end of all this, Obama gets a 'false' because:

"Obama said that 'under Gov. Romney's definition ... Donald Trump is a small business.' But any tax cuts Trump would get from Romney would have nothing to do with whether he’s a small business or not. We rate Obama’s claim False."



THAT WAS OBAMA'S POINT! ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE YOU DON'T 'GET' THAT? Obama is saying that Romney's definition of a small business is so loose as to include someone like Trump or super wealthy Hedge-fund managers. [font size="+1"] And Obama's point is that this is fucking ridiculous[/font].

Politifact's Louis Jacobson also adds to his supposedly clinical analysis of the statement being examined that:

"The Obama campaign has often tried to remind voters of Romney's relationship with Trump, who has been the most prominent person to question where Obama was born. In TV ads, the Obama campaign has frequently shown a photo of Romney in front of a Trump jet. But was Obama correct when he said that "under Gov. Romney's definition ... Donald Trump is a small business"?"

[font size="+1"] ... is this part of your appraisal of the relevant facts Mr. Jacobson??[/font]


On this judgement call Politifact and Louis Jacobson, PolitiFact Senior Writer (really??), get a [font color="red"]FAIL[/font]


Barack Obama Says: "Under Gov. Romney's definition ... Donald Trump is a small business."

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Politifact says Obama statement re Romney's equating Trump to a small business gets a 'false' rating (Original Post) Bill USA Oct 2012 OP
The JTS (Jackpine Truth Squad) rates Politifact's assessment Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #1
can you give me a link. All I can find with Google is Jackpine Tribune...I like their assessment! Bill USA Oct 2012 #2
The post above IS the link. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #4
Obama said Politicalboi Oct 2012 #3
You know, we seem to have an odd trend happening in the US Hydra Oct 2012 #5
I live in Manhattan. I know a hedge fund manager Lucky Luciano Oct 2012 #6

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. The JTS (Jackpine Truth Squad) rates Politifact's assessment
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 05:37 PM
Oct 2012

of Obama's commentary on Trump as a small business as **Moronic**.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. Obama said
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 06:00 PM
Oct 2012

"You didn't build that" We rate that as false.

I guess comprehension goes out the window Politifact.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. You know, we seem to have an odd trend happening in the US
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 06:19 PM
Oct 2012

That factual information is somehow debatable or subject to opinion.

I'm sorry Virginia. Facts are not fair weather things.

Lucky Luciano

(11,257 posts)
6. I live in Manhattan. I know a hedge fund manager
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:33 PM
Oct 2012

here who takes down 40-50 bucks a year even if the fund is flat for the year. There are 30 employees at his shop. Not bad for a "small businessman!"

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