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swag

(26,487 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:28 PM Oct 2012

The Vice Presidential Debate: Joe Biden Was Right to Laugh (Matt Taibbi)

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-vice-presidential-debate-joe-biden-was-right-to-laugh-20121012?stop_mobi=yes

I've never thought much of Joe Biden. But man, did he get it right in last night's debate, and not just because he walloped sniveling little Paul Ryan on the facts. What he got absolutely right, despite what you might read this morning (many outlets are criticizing Biden's dramatic excesses), was his tone. Biden did absolutely roll his eyes, snort, laugh derisively and throw his hands up in the air whenever Ryan trotted out his little beady-eyed BS-isms.

But he should have! He was absolutely right to be doing it. We all should be doing it. That includes all of us in the media, and not just paid obnoxious-opinion-merchants like me, but so-called "objective" news reporters as well. We should all be rolling our eyes, and scoffing and saying, "Come back when you're serious."

The load of balls that both Romney and Ryan have been pushing out there for this whole election season is simply not intellectually serious. Most of their platform isn't even a real platform, it's a fourth-rate parlor trick designed to paper over the real agenda – cutting taxes even more for super-rich dickheads like Mitt Romney, and getting everyone else to pay the bill.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-vice-presidential-debate-joe-biden-was-right-to-laugh-20121012#ixzz296RXjeBS
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The Vice Presidential Debate: Joe Biden Was Right to Laugh (Matt Taibbi) (Original Post) swag Oct 2012 OP
Yes! Exactly this. Nt Tien1985 Oct 2012 #1
Comedy is made for laughter.... russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #2
Effin-A-Right! tk2kewl Oct 2012 #3
DAMN STRAIGHT!!! nt K8-EEE Oct 2012 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #5
I have for many years believed that laughing out loud SheilaT Oct 2012 #6
Especially today's repukes ailsagirl Oct 2012 #7
The thing to keep in mind. Blanks Oct 2012 #23
big kick! Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #8
So Biden dissed Ryan Jack Rabbit Oct 2012 #9
Yes. That. Spot on. AllyCat Oct 2012 #10
Absolutely, positively! K & R mother earth Oct 2012 #11
Leave it to Matt to set me straight... mountain grammy Oct 2012 #12
Second that. When they lie smile, when they lie again roll your eyes, one more time LOL Vincardog Oct 2012 #13
Crystallizes my thoughts exactly. dchill Oct 2012 #14
K&R n/t Smickey Oct 2012 #15
Booyah. ClusterFreak Oct 2012 #16
Awesome article...best lines enclosed for those that do not read the whole thing... politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #17
Big K&R avaistheone1 Oct 2012 #18
Biden had a masterful come-back when Ryan ribbed him about remarks "sometimes not coming out right" Bill USA Oct 2012 #19
Comment section [!!!] mikki35 Oct 2012 #20
Chronic, deliberate liars like Ryan are lucky that a laugh and a rebuttal is all they get. Kurovski Oct 2012 #21
Damn straight Biden was The Man last night... truebluegreen Oct 2012 #22
I thought he said 'fourth-grade' parlor trick! Same thing, LOL joanbarnes Oct 2012 #24
"cutting taxes even more for super-rich dickheads like Mitt Romney, and getting everyone else to pay Coyotl Oct 2012 #25
Any day you can call out the super-rich dickheads is a very good day indeed! n/t AAO Oct 2012 #26
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. I have for many years believed that laughing out loud
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:06 PM
Oct 2012

at utter nonsense is the right thing to do.

Normally I believe that other people should be treated with dignity and respect. However, in the face of total and utter nonsense, that no longer applies.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
7. Especially today's repukes
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:08 PM
Oct 2012

who go far beyond "rude." I think they're psychotic-- honestly.

Their ability to ignore "the real world" is absolutely mind-boggling.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
23. The thing to keep in mind.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:02 AM
Oct 2012

Is that it is the first (and only) time that Ryan has had someone right there to question his statements.

I completely agree with the article; laughing at his nonsense was exactly the appropriate response.

He demonstrated that outside of Fox News nobody should consider Ryan a viable candidate for VP. Also Biden pointed out that their plan for stimulating the economy has never worked. Never.

I hope Obama points that out in the next debate.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
9. So Biden dissed Ryan
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:37 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:19 AM - Edit history (1)

Since when is an Ayn Rand devotee seeking to influence public policy worthy of respect? It's an ideology that asserts its own impractical concept of "morality" and expects the rest of us to march off a cliff in its name. It claims to exalt "freedom", yet it is a freedom that can only be protected by a police state. It claims to be based on the ideal of Truth, yet Ryan dare not tell the truth.

I hope the President was paying close attention to his number two last night. That, Mr. President, is how you speak to a free market ideologue. Except to the bankers on Wall Street. To them you say, "you have the right to remain silent . . . ."

mountain grammy

(26,636 posts)
12. Leave it to Matt to set me straight...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:51 PM
Oct 2012

He is correct, as usual, and to think I got a little upset watching Joe laugh.. put me in my place, Matt! Rmoney and lyin Ryan are a joke.. laugh at them for sure, but do not, under any circumstances, elect them.

politicaljack78

(312 posts)
17. Awesome article...best lines enclosed for those that do not read the whole thing...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 03:26 PM
Oct 2012

Referring to the non-existent Romney-Ryan tax plan:

"If you're going to offer an across-the-board 20 percent tax cut without explaining how it's getting paid for, hell, why stop there? Why not just offer everyone over 18 a 1965 Mustang? Why not promise every child a Zagnut and an Xbox, or compatible mates for every lonely single person?"

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-vice-presidential-debate-joe-biden-was-right-to-laugh-20121012#ixzz297A3dstG

And ending in a message of all the media and the public at large:

"The Romney/Ryan platform makes sense, and is not laughable, in only one context: if you're a multi-millionaire and you recognize that this is the only way to sell your agenda to mass audiences. But if you're not one of those rooting gazillionaires, you should laugh, you should roll your eyes, and it doesn't matter if you're the Vice President or an ABC reporter or a toll operator. You should laugh, because this stuff is a joke, and we shouldn't take it seriously."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/the-vice-presidential-debate-joe-biden-was-right-to-laugh-20121012#ixzz297AOnhN9

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
19. Biden had a masterful come-back when Ryan ribbed him about remarks "sometimes not coming out right"
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:03 PM
Oct 2012

Biden, laughed and then said:"Yeah, but they know I MEAN what I say!"

.........touche! (sp?)

recommended.

mikki35

(111 posts)
20. Comment section [!!!]
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:32 PM
Oct 2012

You should see the blizzard of RW bull puckies being unloaded in the comments section! Phewwwww!!! Matt must have yanked a few hairs a tad too hard!


Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
21. Chronic, deliberate liars like Ryan are lucky that a laugh and a rebuttal is all they get.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:52 PM
Oct 2012

If it were up to me they'd be led off the stage and sent to their all-important churches where penance would continue until a revelation was achieved.

It would be nice if we banned demonstrated, insistent liars from the airwaves like they apparently do in Canada.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
25. "cutting taxes even more for super-rich dickheads like Mitt Romney, and getting everyone else to pay
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:53 AM
Oct 2012

excellente Matt

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