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applegrove

(118,832 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:04 PM Nov 2012

"Told You So" by Andrew Sullivan at the Daily Dish

Told You So

by Andrew Sullivan at the Daily Dish

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/11/told-you-so.html

"SNIP........................................

That was also my theory about tax rates and the more socially liberal society that economic freedom had helped accelerate. Taxes were way lower than they had historically been, and conservatives should be glad about this but vigilant about debt and spending - not eager to cut taxes even more, especially in wartime. America was more multicultural, and one minority, gay citizens, was actively seeking greater responsibility and inclusion. But by the new millennium, low taxes were unbreakable theological truths on the right and gays were Biblically repellent and had to be re-ostracized - by amending the federal constitution no less. Then came the crash of 2008 and a whole set of ideas about self-regulating markets and risk had to be re-thought (as intellectually honest libertarians like Alan Greenspan and Richard Posner conceded). Facing this reality, Bartlett rediscovered Keynes as he actually was and recognized the salience of Keynesianism for a new crisis that was an almost textbook case for government intervention:

Annoyingly, I found myself joined at the hip to Paul Krugman, whose analysis was identical to my own. I had previously viewed Krugman as an intellectual enemy and attacked him rather colorfully in an old column that he still remembers. For the record, no one has been more correct in his analysis and prescriptions for the economy’s problems than Paul Krugman. The blind hatred for him on the right simply pushed me further away from my old allies and comrades... The economy continues to conform to textbook Keynesianism. We still need more aggregate demand, and the Republican idea that tax cuts for the rich will save us becomes more ridiculous by the day.

We can easily become cynical about Washington. It contains a hundred times more schmoozers and social climbers and lobbyists and parasites than it does individuals genuinely committed to the common good in different ways. And of those earnest individuals, only a few are ballsy enough to follow their own reason doggedly enough to suffer social ostracism, removal from all conservative media outlets, and loss of a job - because their mind is not for sale or rent.

Bruce Bartlett is that kind of guy. We need so many more. But I'm thankful for one. And a legacy and example that will live on.

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"Told You So" by Andrew Sullivan at the Daily Dish (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2012 OP
It is nice to see the thinking of Reganites changing applegrove Nov 2012 #1
Republicans keep claiming entitlements are driving the Debt. John2 Nov 2012 #2
+100 applegrove Nov 2012 #3
I've watched Bartlett over the years, and he hasn't changed, SteveG Nov 2012 #4
 

John2

(2,730 posts)
2. Republicans keep claiming entitlements are driving the Debt.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:34 PM
Nov 2012

That is not true. Entitlements are money, which goes back into the economy. Wars and Tax cuts for the Wealthy, does not go back into the economy. Like Buffet claims, they have been hiding it under their mattresses or stashing it off shore for their siblings inheritance. The middle class and Poor are not responsible for the Debt period.

What the Republicans have done, is snuckered some people and Democrats into thinking that. Now the smart people need to call them out. The middle class and Poor are not holding on to any money. So the smart people are telling the President to go off the cliff, and let the Republicans and their allies kick and scream about it. And if any of your so call advisors say different, fire the son of gun! We elected you and not them! They can be replaced but you can't replace us. We gave you the power, use it!

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
4. I've watched Bartlett over the years, and he hasn't changed,
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:12 PM
Nov 2012

he is just as Conservative as he ever was. But he is an honest Conservative, of the "if it ain't broke don't fix it kind". He has not entered the altered state of reality that the rest of the party has, especially since the coming of the tea-baggers. The current Republican party isn't Conservative at all, it is Radically Reactionary, they betray all of the core principals of true Conservatism which Bartlett takes very seriously. This is the kind of Conservative who used to make up much of the Republican Base. The modern Republican party has expelled them as well as the moderate Rockefeller Republican's that dominated the Northeast for nearly 100 years. Those two groups were the real intellectual base of Conservatism. They created Movement Conservatism only to lose control of it to the Reactionary Fundamentalist Chistian's (Goldwater has some prescience on that unholy alliance) and then with the knuckle dragger's of the Tea Party. There is nothing Conservative being promulgated by today's Republican Party, their agenda is pure Radical Reactionary.

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