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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:57 PM Dec 2012

Throw out the NDAA, End the Wars and Start Nation Building at home.

“Today, this House will send the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) to conference. Contrary to its title, the bill does not provide for the protection of the American people. It expands war. It further indebts our nation. It encroaches on basic rights with regards to indefinite detention. It eliminates the basic tenet that due process rights apply to everyone in this country – not just American citizens.

“The legislation also includes additional sanctions against Iran despite numerous reports that our sanctions are affecting the ability of ordinary Iranians to obtain medicine and offer basic goods. Sanctions have thus far not served to solve the impasse or bring Iran to the negotiating table. More sanctions are not the answer and do not bring us closer to a diplomatic solution.


“This legislation also perpetuates the myth that we are ending the war in Afghanistan. We are not leaving Afghanistan. We are deepening our commitment. This bill provides for another staggering $88 billion for the war. The Strategic Partnership Agreement between the U.S. and Afghanistan commits us to the country for at least another decade with a $20 billion price tag.

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http://www.nationofchange.org/throw-out-ndaa-end-wars-and-start-nation-building-home-1355497806


Can someone confirm if Americans are afforded with due process?

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Throw out the NDAA, End the Wars and Start Nation Building at home. (Original Post) midnight Dec 2012 OP
I like your OP and I agree with it, screw the NDAA. This has to be the worst piece of legislation teddy51 Dec 2012 #1
The important thing that is going on this second time around is Feinstein's amendment. midnight Dec 2012 #2
 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
1. I like your OP and I agree with it, screw the NDAA. This has to be the worst piece of legislation
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:04 PM
Dec 2012

to come out of Congress. The fact that the President signed it, and fought to keep the indefinite detention part of it intact for US citizens is wrong. Not certain where he is going with this, but don't like it one bit.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
2. The important thing that is going on this second time around is Feinstein's amendment.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:43 PM
Dec 2012

Sen. Dianne Feinstein has introduced an amendment that superficially looks like it could help, but in fact, would cause harm. Feinstein was a forceful leader last year against the NDAA detention provisions and believes that she is doing the right thing this year. But the problem is that the actual text of her amendment is bad.

It might look like a fix, but it breaks things further. Feinstein's amendment says that American citizens and green-card holders in the United States cannot be put into indefinite detention in a military prison, but carves out everyone else in the United States."



"There are good ways and bad ways to amend the NDAA. Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colorado) has introduced two amendments that would change the NDAA in good ways. But Sen. Feinstein, despite good intentions, has introduced a harmful amendment.

There is still time to stop it. Call your senators now and say "Vote NO" on the Feinstein amendment, unless it is fixed to make the entire United States off-limits to indefinite detention without charge or trial by the military. The congressional switchboard number is 202-225-3121. This amendment goes to the very heart of who we are."

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/due-process-guarantee-letter-re-opposition-feinstein-amendment-3018-ndaa.

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/dont-be-fooled-new-ndaa-detention-amendment

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