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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:42 PM Apr 2013

Elizabeth Colbert-Busch Blows Out a Desperate Mark Sanford in South Carolina Debate

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Elizabeth Colbert-Busch Blows Out a Desperate Mark Sanford in South Carolina Debate

Colbert-Busch began by saying that her greatest professional accomplishment was her business career. Mark Sanford touted his 20 year record of cutting spending. He then gave the standard talking points about government being in your wallet, and said that he was part of the House class of ’94 that balanced the budget.

Colbert-Busch got big applause for saying she supports the Chamber of Commerce’s position on immigration reform. She said immigrants should pay their taxes, learn to speak English, and get to the back of the line. Sanford said the immigration reform bill needs some more work. He blamed labor unions for shutting the guest worker program down. Colbert-Busch dodged when asked if she agreed with Sanford on the unions, but said we need fair immigration reform.

The discussion moved to the Port of Charleston. Colbert-Busch called the port an economic engine for the state. She hit Sanford for voting against the bridge, dredging, job creation, and said that he was the only congressman to do that. Sanford said that Colbert-Busch donated $500 to his first gubernatorial campaign, so his vote could not have bothered her that much. Sanford than tried to piggyback off of Tim Scott by saying, “I agree with what Tim Scott says.” Colbert-Busch rebutted his point that she donated $500 to his campaign, and said that Sanford lied to her about supporting trade. He said he supported it, and then he turned around and did the opposite. Sanford said again if it really bothered you why did you write a campaign check in support of candidacy for governor?

Sanford was asked about Obamacare. He said he doesn’t like the bill, and he would vote to defund it. Sanford brought up the tired Obamacare lie that the government is going to come between doctors and patients. He then played that old Southern classic, government doesn’t tell you what products to buy. Colbert-Busch called Obamacare problematic. She said it was expensive. It cuts into Medicare benefits. It causes employers to layoff their employees, She added that it needed to be fixed. She listed the things she liked about the bill, and said it was good business, creates jobs, and we need it. Sanford tried to tie her to the Democrats in Congress by claiming that her Washington fundraiser was hosted by 37 Dems who voted for Obamacare. Sanford then launched his big strategy, linking his opponent to Nancy Pelosi. Colbert-Busch said, “Nobody tells me what to do, except for the people of the 1st District of South Carolina.”

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/elizabeth-colbert-busch-blows-desperate-mark-sanford-south-carolina-debate.html


A Good Read

Edited to add... Here's a link that has the full debate VIDEO: http://www.c-span.org/flvPop.aspx?id=10737439446

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Elizabeth Colbert-Busch Blows Out a Desperate Mark Sanford in South Carolina Debate (Original Post) Tx4obama Apr 2013 OP
markie mercuryblues Apr 2013 #1
Colbert-Busch sounds like a Blue Dog railsback Apr 2013 #2
Yes mercuryblues Apr 2013 #3
Do you mean Bernie Sanders? alarimer Apr 2013 #6
Well, he tweeted his support for Jason Collins today RedSpartan Apr 2013 #9
lol mercuryblues Apr 2013 #18
This is not all of SC: it's the 1st congressional district frazzled Apr 2013 #13
Which considering her constiuents in SC is the Cha Apr 2013 #8
She sounds like a Repuke, and this Doctor_J Apr 2013 #4
Our only choice lately seems to be Republican or Republican lite. progressoid Apr 2013 #11
This quakerboy Apr 2013 #15
Yep and yep. n/t Dawgs Apr 2013 #20
I look forward to seeing it. pacalo Apr 2013 #5
Thanks. A link to the full debate video below Tx4obama Apr 2013 #7
Just finished watching the entire debate... Hulk Apr 2013 #10
I just finished, too. pacalo Apr 2013 #14
Omnibus Reconciliation act was ... not 1994, but 1993 ffr Apr 2013 #12
I was unpleasantly surprised Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2013 #16
The moderators were very poor, I thought No Vested Interest Apr 2013 #17
just mercuryblues Apr 2013 #19

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
1. markie
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:50 PM
Apr 2013

was a desperate ass. I watched a little bit and he must have mentioned Pelosi at least 2 times in 15 minutes. He sounded jealous that the Democratic party was still endorsing ECB, while the republicans dropped him like a hot potato.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
2. Colbert-Busch sounds like a Blue Dog
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 08:53 PM
Apr 2013

Can't tell if that's good or bad yet - only a voting record will answer that question.

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
3. Yes
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:06 PM
Apr 2013

Yes she does. Remember it is SC. If she said that in NYC, she would be considered a republican. The seat she is running for is very, very red. If she sounded like Barry Sanders she would not stand a chance even against Appalachian mark.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
6. Do you mean Bernie Sanders?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:25 PM
Apr 2013

Barry Sanders was a running back; not sure of his position on gay marriage.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. This is not all of SC: it's the 1st congressional district
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:49 PM
Apr 2013

And it would be a lot less red if the African American areas of Charleston hadn't been redistricted into the 6th congressional district.

Cha

(297,495 posts)
8. Which considering her constiuents in SC is the
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:08 PM
Apr 2013

only way she could sound and have a snowball's chance in hell to go to D.C.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
15. This
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:28 AM
Apr 2013

Not what I was expecting from a Colbert. Sanford seemed to be more aggressive, and get more time. While her points were "better", measured by a sane person, as we have seen so many times, that means nothing in terms of winning a debate. And its still a rightie discussing policy with a far rightie. I didn't hear much to get excited about.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
5. I look forward to seeing it.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

I appreciate how you stay on top of the upcoming videos we most want to see, Tx.


 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
10. Just finished watching the entire debate...
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:26 PM
Apr 2013

...and my feeling is she is a weak candidate at best. If he wasn't such an ass-hat, snake-in-the-grass, used-car-salesman, I wouldn't consider voting for her. She is definitely going to need to represent her district - bright red repuKKKe. She is extremely unpolished and naive. But he is extremely crooked, twisted and worthless. I'll give it to her ...this time, but we really need to find Democrats that have ethics and strong character than can handle the difficult job of working in Washington DC.
I pray that sanford doesn't get elected. What a disgrace it would be to South Carolina. But then again, look at David Vitter....<sigh>

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
14. I just finished, too.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:15 AM
Apr 2013

Yes, she's a greenhorn, but my impression is that she seems to have a strong foundation of business sense, confidence, & likability to make her state proud. I liked the way she handled herself. She seemed unflappable; whenever Sanford tried to put her on the spot, she laughed goodnaturedly (which was charming) or confidently responded in a polished manner.

She looks like a winner to me, Hulk.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
12. Omnibus Reconciliation act was ... not 1994, but 1993
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:40 PM
Apr 2013

For the record, in 1993 all 175 Republican House members voted against it and you would have done the same. <link> Similar story in the Senate, where Al Gore had to cast the 50-50 tie breaker, thus passing the bill and setting the nation on course for the longest economic expansion in U.S. History. <link>

The House Class of 94 was Newt Gingriche's anti-Clinton, shut down the government bunch and they were no better. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, LOSER!

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
16. I was unpleasantly surprised
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:42 AM
Apr 2013

to hear her mention the Chamber of Commerce a few times. But had to give up on the debate after about 15 minutes....the audience was nuts and the moderators didn't do a good job of questioning or asking for restraint from the crowd. I hope Elizabeth wins, but if she does, that she gets into a more progressive mode.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
17. The moderators were very poor, I thought
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:26 AM
Apr 2013

They would tell Sanford he still had time left on his thirty seconds, and he would go on and on way past the 30. They would give Elizabeth 30 seconds to respond - she was usually quite brief and to the point, then Sanford got (or took, unrestrained by the moderators) another period of time, running off his mouth.

His long-winded answers reminded me of his talking too much at his heralded press conference when he returned from his hike/trip to Argentina.

Sanford also did not answer directly, but made allusions to others, such as he did when asked about his (? infidelity/romance) he brought up Bill Clinton but didn't answer for his own behavior.

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
19. just
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:22 AM
Apr 2013

because markie talks fast, doesn't mean he is telling the truth. He is a well established liar. Not to mention dumb. In his full page ad about his rough week, he got basic historical facts wrong. Which is not the first time. With his elite education his love letters show his spelling and grammar are abysmal. This plays into his arrogance. He doesn't bother to spell check or fact check anything. True to "the Family" teachings, if he says it, it must be true. After all, he has God's support. He is very much like a certain ex president in this area.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/23/1204322/-Mark-Sanford-had-a-bad-week#

Mark Sanford had a bad week...

and he spends 1,265 not-very-well-written words telling us about it. No, it wasn't the Boston Marathon bombing that upset him, nor the plant explosion in Texas. It was that, well, we're all so mean to him.


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