Elizabeth Colbert-Busch Blows Out a Desperate Mark Sanford in South Carolina Debate
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Elizabeth Colbert-Busch Blows Out a Desperate Mark Sanford in South Carolina Debate
Colbert-Busch began by saying that her greatest professional accomplishment was her business career. Mark Sanford touted his 20 year record of cutting spending. He then gave the standard talking points about government being in your wallet, and said that he was part of the House class of 94 that balanced the budget.
Colbert-Busch got big applause for saying she supports the Chamber of Commerces position on immigration reform. She said immigrants should pay their taxes, learn to speak English, and get to the back of the line. Sanford said the immigration reform bill needs some more work. He blamed labor unions for shutting the guest worker program down. Colbert-Busch dodged when asked if she agreed with Sanford on the unions, but said we need fair immigration reform.
The discussion moved to the Port of Charleston. Colbert-Busch called the port an economic engine for the state. She hit Sanford for voting against the bridge, dredging, job creation, and said that he was the only congressman to do that. Sanford said that Colbert-Busch donated $500 to his first gubernatorial campaign, so his vote could not have bothered her that much. Sanford than tried to piggyback off of Tim Scott by saying, I agree with what Tim Scott says. Colbert-Busch rebutted his point that she donated $500 to his campaign, and said that Sanford lied to her about supporting trade. He said he supported it, and then he turned around and did the opposite. Sanford said again if it really bothered you why did you write a campaign check in support of candidacy for governor?
Sanford was asked about Obamacare. He said he doesnt like the bill, and he would vote to defund it. Sanford brought up the tired Obamacare lie that the government is going to come between doctors and patients. He then played that old Southern classic, government doesnt tell you what products to buy. Colbert-Busch called Obamacare problematic. She said it was expensive. It cuts into Medicare benefits. It causes employers to layoff their employees, She added that it needed to be fixed. She listed the things she liked about the bill, and said it was good business, creates jobs, and we need it. Sanford tried to tie her to the Democrats in Congress by claiming that her Washington fundraiser was hosted by 37 Dems who voted for Obamacare. Sanford then launched his big strategy, linking his opponent to Nancy Pelosi. Colbert-Busch said, Nobody tells me what to do, except for the people of the 1st District of South Carolina.
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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/elizabeth-colbert-busch-blows-desperate-mark-sanford-south-carolina-debate.html
A Good Read
Edited to add... Here's a link that has the full debate VIDEO: http://www.c-span.org/flvPop.aspx?id=10737439446
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)was a desperate ass. I watched a little bit and he must have mentioned Pelosi at least 2 times in 15 minutes. He sounded jealous that the Democratic party was still endorsing ECB, while the republicans dropped him like a hot potato.
railsback
(1,881 posts)Can't tell if that's good or bad yet - only a voting record will answer that question.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)Yes she does. Remember it is SC. If she said that in NYC, she would be considered a republican. The seat she is running for is very, very red. If she sounded like Barry Sanders she would not stand a chance even against Appalachian mark.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Barry Sanders was a running back; not sure of his position on gay marriage.
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)If that is any indication.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)I was up past my bedtime. Where the heck did I get Barry from?
frazzled
(18,402 posts)And it would be a lot less red if the African American areas of Charleston hadn't been redistricted into the 6th congressional district.
Cha
(297,495 posts)only way she could sound and have a snowball's chance in hell to go to D.C.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)doesn't sound like an ass-kicking
progressoid
(49,992 posts)Not what I was expecting from a Colbert. Sanford seemed to be more aggressive, and get more time. While her points were "better", measured by a sane person, as we have seen so many times, that means nothing in terms of winning a debate. And its still a rightie discussing policy with a far rightie. I didn't hear much to get excited about.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)I appreciate how you stay on top of the upcoming videos we most want to see, Tx.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)...and my feeling is she is a weak candidate at best. If he wasn't such an ass-hat, snake-in-the-grass, used-car-salesman, I wouldn't consider voting for her. She is definitely going to need to represent her district - bright red repuKKKe. She is extremely unpolished and naive. But he is extremely crooked, twisted and worthless. I'll give it to her ...this time, but we really need to find Democrats that have ethics and strong character than can handle the difficult job of working in Washington DC.
I pray that sanford doesn't get elected. What a disgrace it would be to South Carolina. But then again, look at David Vitter....<sigh>
pacalo
(24,721 posts)Yes, she's a greenhorn, but my impression is that she seems to have a strong foundation of business sense, confidence, & likability to make her state proud. I liked the way she handled herself. She seemed unflappable; whenever Sanford tried to put her on the spot, she laughed goodnaturedly (which was charming) or confidently responded in a polished manner.
She looks like a winner to me, Hulk.
ffr
(22,671 posts)For the record, in 1993 all 175 Republican House members voted against it and you would have done the same. <link> Similar story in the Senate, where Al Gore had to cast the 50-50 tie breaker, thus passing the bill and setting the nation on course for the longest economic expansion in U.S. History. <link>
The House Class of 94 was Newt Gingriche's anti-Clinton, shut down the government bunch and they were no better. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, LOSER!
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)to hear her mention the Chamber of Commerce a few times. But had to give up on the debate after about 15 minutes....the audience was nuts and the moderators didn't do a good job of questioning or asking for restraint from the crowd. I hope Elizabeth wins, but if she does, that she gets into a more progressive mode.
No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)They would tell Sanford he still had time left on his thirty seconds, and he would go on and on way past the 30. They would give Elizabeth 30 seconds to respond - she was usually quite brief and to the point, then Sanford got (or took, unrestrained by the moderators) another period of time, running off his mouth.
His long-winded answers reminded me of his talking too much at his heralded press conference when he returned from his hike/trip to Argentina.
Sanford also did not answer directly, but made allusions to others, such as he did when asked about his (? infidelity/romance) he brought up Bill Clinton but didn't answer for his own behavior.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)because markie talks fast, doesn't mean he is telling the truth. He is a well established liar. Not to mention dumb. In his full page ad about his rough week, he got basic historical facts wrong. Which is not the first time. With his elite education his love letters show his spelling and grammar are abysmal. This plays into his arrogance. He doesn't bother to spell check or fact check anything. True to "the Family" teachings, if he says it, it must be true. After all, he has God's support. He is very much like a certain ex president in this area.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/23/1204322/-Mark-Sanford-had-a-bad-week#
Mark Sanford had a bad week...
and he spends 1,265 not-very-well-written words telling us about it. No, it wasn't the Boston Marathon bombing that upset him, nor the plant explosion in Texas. It was that, well, we're all so mean to him.
All about mark