Edward Snowden Is Driving The US Security State Insane
The US Security State seems to be in a panic over Edward Snowdens leaks. Secretary of State John Kerry, along with UN nominee Samantha Powers, is threatening acts of war with Venezuela. The US has already violated international law by forcing down the plane of the Bolivian president. And now, President Obama is saying he may derail talks with Russian President Putin over Snowden.
With every act the US Security State draws more attention to whistleblower Edward Snowden and the dragnet surveillance program he unveiled. Every act is an act of self-destruction with their abuse of power showing signs of their weakness.
Snowden struck a nerve with the security state. The US likes to project an image of freedom and democracy but Snowden has proven the US does not have a real democracy and the people of the US are not free. Snowden shows that the people of the United States have been lied to and the political leadership of the country does not respect our freedom, privacy or constitution.
If Venezuela or Russia were proven to be recording every Internet post and chat, every piece of mail, as well as monitoring all telephone activity of its citizens, US politicians and corporate media hacks like David Gregory would be jumping up and down accusing those countries of being totalitarian. Of course, when Snowden shows the same is happening in the US, we hear approval from the bi-partisans in Congress and too many in the corporate media defend the US while attacking journalists like Glenn Greenwald for letting the truth out.
http://www.zcommunications.org/edward-snowden-is-driving-the-us-security-state-insane-by-kevin-zeese
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)I think it has done far more harm to how the world sees us than
Snowden did. Also found intriquing of what could happen if the
gov't gets what it wants, Snowden, and puts him on trial while the
world is watching.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Do we really want people in charge who panic when a PR problem comes up? How is the General going to behave in a real crisis if he panics over this sort of crap in a political dustup like this? And is all the money they are pissing away going to buy us anything even remotely of equal value to the other things we could use it for? Like roads and bridges and schools?
I think not.
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)They are panicked to get him back and stop the leaks. He's got something really bad on them.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)It's not what they have that is the problem, it's that they are collecting and keeping it. It's not theirs, they have no right to it, it's data theft for their own use, plain and simple, as much as they can grab.
There may also be issues about what HAS been done with it, but that remains to be seen, altbough the Bolivian plane thing was a real breath of stupid in that regard, just in case anybody had doubts.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)The super-important egos exposed for incompetent political hacks our corporations pay to own.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)elzenmahn
(904 posts)...there's probably a treasure trove of inconvenient truths in their possession.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)My car is many times more dangerous to me than any terrorist pissed at my government. They went after the WTC and Washington. That was no accident. I don't really blame them for being scared. The threat to them is real.
bluedeathray
(511 posts)polynomial
(750 posts)We the people are at the low end information of society. In fact Snowden has advanced this understanding as a social need so obvious many in the upper structure know this is happening, are troubled, in knowing, realizing the American people are being data collected for profiteering under the massive secrecy and data collection agencies like NSA, CIA, FBI is totally wrong.
Especially, Meta data which in its massive simple form is elementary quantum thinking that extends to quantum behavior all basic reasoning of a nation that is the maxima ultimate to social engineering by the few one percent. The real scary part is the enhanced reasoning that can sift from this data to be able to teach young Republican Al Qaeda to move an agenda in an advantage the low end information people do not have.
The real kicker here is where does this data go? Where is it stored? What is it used for and why does a private corporation like Booz Allen and Hamilton, a previous personal relations company tightly connected to the Bush Cheney secret service shadow government have such access? Obvious, to profiteer, gain power and promote the notion of too big to fail. It is very compelling to line up and participate if youre never going to get caught because it is secret.
We the people need to understand this notion of doing such a business of massive Meta data collection under the blanket of national security is why the Republicans must keep a war going. To basically ditch hide and cover up any all tracks that will likely lead to corruption in profiteering of proportions never before conceived by a political party, a military industrial complex, and the real key player the cable radio media.
Even the great theorist of right wing trash, Rush Limbaugh slobbers over his microphone daily professing everything and anything in what Obama is thinking about to advance any inkling avoiding the Snowden security dilemma. Limbaugh never talks about it; means this Snowden action hit the Republican Al Qaeda Party exposing treason.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)pressuring it's client states to block, ground and search the Presidential Plane.
(Bolivia has 10.5 million people)
But against Russia, it uses only words: vague threats, vague bribes.
The aging "Superpower" is always quick to attack a tiny, weak state like Grenada (0.11 million people) or Panama (3.5 million people), and sometimes even a small, weak state like Iraq (23 million people in 2003) - but against a country who could actually fight back and do some harm, someone almost half our size (Russia has 143 million people, the USA 317 million) - the US is a hesitant pussycat.
Even Iran (80 million people) makes the US military very nervous about attacking them.
Imagine how cautious the US Security State will act when China surpasses it in GDP (Purchasing Power Parities) - within the next decade.
Maybe by 2016:
http://rt.com/usa/china-us-economic-economy-373/
Bigger (China has 1,350 million people) AND a bigger economy.
Exactly the type of country the US hasn't dealt with since WWII.
Venezuela has only 28.5 million people - probably small and weak enough for the US to try something very aggressive to kidnap/kill Snowden there, if he decides to try asylum in that warm, Caribbean country.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Which is kind of weird, really. But it's the class thinking, you only debate or make concessions with your peers, see? The most important thing in their eyes is not to surrender you superior position. Underlings of various sorts must first obey to get any consideration, and even then they are not owed it. As with Snowden, first come home and surrender yourself, and then perhaps you can convince us to give you some slack.