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Mr. Sparkle

(2,935 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 12:39 PM Jan 2012

How The Tea Party Lost The 2012 Republican Primaries

[quote]As Friedersdorf goes on to point out, the pickings are pretty slim for a Tea Partier from the remainder of the field. Notwithstanding the fact that he has tried to hitch his star to the Tea Party virtually since the time the movement started, Newt Gingrich is clearly not a Tea Partier. Before running for President, he supported an individual mandate for health care, worked to advance the interests of Freddie Mac, urged his fellow Republicans to pass No Child Left Behind and George Bush’s budget-busting Medicare prescription drug benefit, and supported TARP, the last of which has been something of a litmus test for Tea Partiers. If the Tea Party doesn’t like Mitt Romney, it’s hardly likely to see Newt Gingrich as a savior without completely sacrificing its principles. Ron Paul, meanwhile, carries the fiscal conservatism banner that the Tea Party likes, but his foreign policy positions are likely to alienate as many Tea Party voters as they attract, if not more. Perhaps Rick Perry counts as a Tea Party candidate, but his campaign is on life support at this point and unlikely to be revived. This leaves the Tea Party left to choose between the moderation of Mitt Romney and the reincarnation of George W. Bush known as Rick Santorum. That’s got to be frustrating.

It gets worse for the movement, though, because the heady days when they were the new things on the political scene are long past and the public has largely turned negative on the movement. A new Rasmussen poll released the day after the New Hampshire primary showed that 46% of likely voters think the Tea Party will hurt the GOP in November. This continues a trend of negative polling for the movement that stretches back to 2010 and suggests that a Presidential candidate with ties to the Tea Party may not fare so well in November, especially among independent voters. Given that, it’s not entirely surprising if candidates for President keep the movement at arms length, adopting their themes in stump speeches to the faithful but eschewing the chance to be closely identified to them.

It’s a big difference from the way things went during the 2010 campaign. Back then, Republican candidates were falling all over themselves to curry favor with the Tea Party movement and it was next-to-impossible for a candidate openly opposed by the movement to make it through a Republican primary unscathed, just as Mike Castle and Lisa Murkowski about that one.[/quote]

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/how-the-tea-party-lost-the-2012-republican-primary/

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How The Tea Party Lost The 2012 Republican Primaries (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Jan 2012 OP
And yet I think the Tea Party was all about 2012 Alcibiades Jan 2012 #1
I never put that together, where they were demostrating. Mr. Sparkle Jan 2012 #2
Here's a list Alcibiades Jan 2012 #3

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
1. And yet I think the Tea Party was all about 2012
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jan 2012

If you look at where the various tea parties had large events, they were all in battleground states: Ohio, Texas, Florida and Wisconsin. If this werre a true grassroots conervative movement, we might find many more events in the most conservative states, but that's the opposite of what happened. The distribution was extremely uneven--Ohio, particularly, stands out as an outlier. I believe that the Koch brothers and others funded the effort to bus people in: though a few events numbered more than 10,000, these were often the very same people. There was a concerted effort in battleground states, not the ones that were necessarily important in 2010, but the ones that will be important this year.

There were no large Tea Party events in SC. Karen Martin of the "South Carolina Patriots" has been all over the news media, but no one seems to ask how big her constituency is. If you go to their web site, you will see:

http://southcarolinapatriots.webs.com/apps/members/

Just 18 people have clicked the "join" button on the South Carolina Patriots web site, and yet, for some reason, this Karen Martin person is treated as though she represents a much larger constituency. If you cannot get more than 18 people to click the join button in conservative Sought Carolina, you're not a real grassroots movement.

The point is that this thing was phony all along. It has been the equivalent of the "Brooks Brothers Riot." It has no real followers, only leaders who are someone's payroll.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,935 posts)
2. I never put that together, where they were demostrating.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jan 2012

Well spotted.

It would be funny if we could compare the crowds at these events, too see if there was any over lap with the same personal. I would hazard a guess that their was.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
3. Here's a list
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jan 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tea_Party_protests,_2010

It's Wikipedia, but it does seem to be faitly comprehensive. If you add up the numbers, and use estimations for the unnumbered protests, it seemed to be all about Ohio, Flotida, Texas and Wisconsin. Surprisingly, perhaps, the most conservative states were underrepresented, while the battleground states were overrepresented.
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