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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:33 AM Feb 2014

Concern grows over possibility of a massive power surge

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-power-surge-20140202,0,2740850.story

Concern grows over possibility of a massive power surge
Whether caused by solar flares or terrorists, a major electromagnetic pulse could fry the electric grid and cause massive disruption, an increasing number of observers say.
By Evan Halper February 1, 2014

At a recent conference in Washington, William Murtagh of the federal Space Weather Prediction Center described the dangers of a massive solar storm that is, as the Lloyd's report on the issue says, "almost inevitable."

Such storms take place roughly every 150 years. The last one was 155 years ago.

During the "Carrington event" of 1859, named after the English astronomer who observed it, a huge solar storm ejected a mass of particles and electromagnetic energy intense enough to induce a surge that knocked out the switching system of the New York Central Railroad below 125th Street and caused the control tower to catch fire. News reports told of telegraph wires going berserk.

But electricity was hardly the backbone of society in pre-Civil War America. Scientists fear such an occurrence now could cause chaos.



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Concern grows over possibility of a massive power surge (Original Post) jsr Feb 2014 OP
Well, I have been watching 2naSalit Feb 2014 #1
Looks like an interesting podcast: the Russian cosmists and their perspective on science bananas Feb 2014 #2
Haven't had a chance 2naSalit Feb 2014 #4
This is an extremely serious - and preventable - problem. bananas Feb 2014 #3

2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
1. Well, I have been watching
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:28 AM
Feb 2014

this monitor for little over a year and a half and the radiation belt rarely had all those colors pushing on it when I first started watching. That only happened after M and X class solar flares... (we have been experiencing almost constant M class flares for about two weeks now) but since about Nov. 2012, this - what you see here - has become the norm.

http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23%2000:44:00&window=-1&cygnetId=40


Found at: http://solarimg.org/artis/ where there is a lot more info. (An amazing information portal from Canada)

Might be why so many volcanoes are going off too, some claim that the energy/waves/particles could be heating up the magma and other parts of the planet we don't normally pay attention to. Seems like every time there is a large flare there are pretty hefty earthquakes...(5+M), a correlation that was made when the Fukushima Daichi quake and tsunami events happened... was a major X class flare/CME at the same time the quake happened. Same with the one in the Indian Ocean in 2004. Something to ponder.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
2. Looks like an interesting podcast: the Russian cosmists and their perspective on science
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:37 AM
Feb 2014
Check out our NEWEST PODCAST with Dr. George M. Young! In this episode we discuss the Russian cosmists and their perspective on science. We touch on many topics, including transhumanism, technology, the politics of science, citizen science, and MUCH much more. A fun show! (1hr)

---> Click here to download the podcast! <--
http://solarimg.org/?p=3213


Russian cosmism is really interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cosmism

Russian cosmism was a philosophical and cultural movement that emerged in Russia in the early 20th century. It entailed a broad theory of natural philosophy, combining elements of religion and ethics with a history and philosophy of the origin, evolution and future existence of the cosmos and humankind. It combined elements from both Eastern and Western philosophic traditions as well as from the Russian Orthodox Church.

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Many ideas of the Russian cosmists were later developed by those in the transhumanist movement.

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"The Earth is the Cradle of the Mind—but one cannot eternally live in a cradle."
- Konstantin Tsiolkovsky



The cover of the book "The Will of the Universe. Intellect Unknown. Mind and Passions" by Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, 1928



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2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
4. Haven't had a chance
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:23 PM
Feb 2014

to listen to that one yet. They do have some interesting topics to cover. Hard to find anything similar in content on this side of the border.

I might have some time this week as it's going to be pretty cold mid-week and I'll want something to do indoors during that time.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
3. This is an extremely serious - and preventable - problem.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:52 AM
Feb 2014

We can't prevent a solar storm, but we can prevent a lot of the damage to the grid.

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