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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:03 AM Feb 2014

NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program By Scahill /Greenwald

NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program
By Scahill /Greenwald



The National Security Agency is using complex analysis of electronic surveillance, rather than human intelligence, as the primary method to locate targets for lethal drone strikes – an unreliable tactic that results in the deaths of innocent or unidentified people.

According to a former drone operator for the military’s Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) who also worked with the NSA, the agency often identifies targets based on controversial metadata analysis and cell-phone tracking technologies. Rather than confirming a target’s identity with operatives or informants on the ground, the CIA or the U.S. military then orders a strike based on the activity and location of the mobile phone a person is believed to be using.

The drone operator, who agreed to discuss the top-secret programs on the condition of anonymity, was a member of JSOC’s High Value Targeting task force, which is charged with identifying, capturing or killing terrorist suspects in Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

His account is bolstered by top-secret NSA documents previously provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden. It is also supported by a former drone sensor operator with the U.S. Air Force, Brandon Bryant, who has become an outspoken critic of the lethal operations in which he was directly involved in Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen.

In one tactic, the NSA “geolocates” the SIM card or handset of a suspected terrorist’s mobile phone, enabling the CIA and U.S. military to conduct night raids and drone strikes to kill or capture the individual in possession of the device.


much more:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/02/10/the-nsas-secret-role/

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NSA’s Secret Role in the U.S. Assassination Program By Scahill /Greenwald (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 OP
The Empire Of Death Marches On cantbeserious Feb 2014 #1
Resistance is futile. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #14
Has all the accuracy of the no-fly list. Downwinder Feb 2014 #2
Catch DemocracyNow.org today... ReRe Feb 2014 #3
But it's only metadata! dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #4
But to the insane, sanity is insanity. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #13
more twilight is that someone on a progressive democratic forum xiamiam Feb 2014 #16
This is their first story from their new debut website Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #5
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #6
So Now The Terrorists Don't even Have to Plant a Bomb AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #7
Another huge piece of news from this article: Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #8
Google already has it through streetview. Downwinder Feb 2014 #10
Google isn't likely to send a cruise missile in your direction or send in the swat team. Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #11
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #9
Some dudes in a cave in Afghanistan caused all this and 9/11 too??? blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #12
The wider discussion should be over the assassination program itself Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #15

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
4. But it's only metadata!
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:40 AM
Feb 2014

Kinda takes the wind out of that tired argument, doesn't it?

We've entered the Twilight Zone, we're killing people based on algorithmic analysis of who when and where they use their phone. That's insane.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
16. more twilight is that someone on a progressive democratic forum
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:53 PM
Feb 2014

will try to defend this. Haven't seen it yet but I have no doubt that as soon as the talking points are dispersed, greenwald will be vilified and justification attempted

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. This is their first story from their new debut website
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:19 AM
Feb 2014

that premiered today.
The site is taking a heavy load right now.
so be patient if it loads up with a 503.

I wouldn't be surprised with even a DOS attack

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
7. So Now The Terrorists Don't even Have to Plant a Bomb
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:58 AM
Feb 2014

just leave a cellphone behind and our drones will do their dirty work for them.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. Another huge piece of news from this article:
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 11:52 AM
Feb 2014

Another huge piece of news from this article:
The [SHENANIGANS] operation – previously undisclosed – utilizes a pod on aircraft that vacuums up massive amounts of data from any wireless routers, computers, smart phones or other electronic devices that are within range.


The operator describes how, from almost four miles in the air, he searched for communications devices
VICTORYDANCE, he adds, “mapped the Wi-Fi fingerprint of nearly every major town in Yemen.”
This is something we didn't even know is possible: drones are cataloguing the MAC addresses, BSSIDs, ESSIDs (unique identifiers for things like your iPhone and the wireless adapter on your PC, laptop, or tablet) of people's personal electronics, at the scale of cities, from so high up in the air you can't even see the drone, and they're creating "fingerprints" from it. That means what devices "belong" in what city.



They don't suspect these people of any wrongdoing or criminal activity - how could they? They're monitoring entire cities. This is exactly what Snowden warned us about: the untargeted mass surveillance of entire populations.



The next time you hear about domestic drones for police and "homeland security," remember this article.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
10. Google already has it through streetview.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 12:01 PM
Feb 2014

If you have an android or Iphone on your network, Google or Apple, and NSA has the access code

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. Google isn't likely to send a cruise missile in your direction or send in the swat team.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 12:29 PM
Feb 2014

anyway they stopped that program

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. The wider discussion should be over the assassination program itself
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:40 PM
Feb 2014

rather than the NSA constantly feeding it shitty, unreliable target data...

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