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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 05:34 PM Apr 2014

Ukraine's Invisible Presidential Election

KIEV—U.S. Vice President Joe Biden recently said that Ukraine’s presidential election may be the most important in the country’s history. But you wouldn’t know it on the streets of Kiev.

With one month until polling booths open, the threat of war dominates headlines. Election leaflets are rare. Just one of the 28 presidential hopefuls—Mikhaylo Dobkin, a marginal pro-Russian candidate—has placed campaign billboards in the capital. And neither of the front-runners are spending much time on the stump. Former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has officially abandoned campaigning to turn her party into a “resistance” force. Petro Poroshenko, the chocolate mogul and favorite to win, has aired a TV ad—that he doesn't even appear in himself.

“This is probably the first time in the country when a presidential election campaign is essentially not happening,” said Ihor Tishchenko, a sociologist and founder of the Reiting sociological group. First of all, it’s against the backdrop of war. Second of all, the candidates are practically not campaigning.” Overshadowed by Moscow's annexation of Crimea and separatist brushfires on the eastern frontier with Russia, an eerie campaign twilight has settled over this country known for scrappy, mudslinging election cycles.

With the country frozen in post-revolutionary limbo until the May 25 election and facing the threat of war, many presidential hopefuls are trying not to stir the pot further as this traumatized nation waits for a polling day amidst threats from within and without. “Russia’s main goal is to destroy the elections and prove there is no authority here,” said 60-year-old Vasil Zolotoverkh, a resident of Chernobyl, who was on business in Kiev.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/04/ukraines-invisible-presidential-election/361324/

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Ukraine's Invisible Presidential Election (Original Post) bemildred Apr 2014 OP
It's partly true. Igel Apr 2014 #1
Elections don't do you much good unless everybody accepts the result. bemildred Apr 2014 #2
For who's who see here : dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #3

Igel

(35,309 posts)
1. It's partly true.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 08:02 PM
Apr 2014

But the media do report on campaign stops in cities outside of Kiev. To some extent people are playing not so much to partisan as to ethnic loyalties.

One thing not widely reported on here are attacks on candidates. So Dobkin, "marginally pro-Russian," was beaten and painted with his entourage and forced to beat a hasty retreat by a group of ardently pro-Russian "peace activists". Tsar'ov withdrew today--I didn't bother to read down to his reasons--having fallen well below 10% popular support as he's become a kind of in-between for the DNR and the media. He spins where Ponomar'ov can't.

Tymoshenko's forced to be a "resistance" party because after saying she wasn't interested she decided she was, has been all sympathetic to those in the East but gotten no support there, and now has to re-re-rebrand herself. Again.

There are so many candidates that it's sort of insane. But they pop up in the news. If you read regional papers there's a bit more of a campaign.

Still, it's low key. I'm not entirely sure anybody wants to win. Yatseniuk said he wouldn't run because it would free him to make really unpopular decisions and take unpopular actions he thought necessary without being punished for them, and allow him to take the blame so that others could stand for election without being tainted by unpopular decisions. (I'd like to see some American politicians have the same backbone.)

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. Elections don't do you much good unless everybody accepts the result.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:25 AM
Apr 2014

Particularly elections intended to provide legitimacy to a new government that is supposed to carry out painful reforms, etc.

I'm not getting into it now, people have lost their minds and will start yelling at me.

Politics here varies widely, sometimes it's been pretty good, honest and candid and fair, sometimes it makes these guys in Ukraine look crude and naive. Since Raygun was elected in 1980, it's become quite bad. But California, where I live, where Reaganism began, seems to be righting itself, seems able to govern itself again. Other states, not so much. The disfunction and incompetence of the Federal authorities allows reform to grow in the states, e.g. cannabis reform, LGBT acceptance, most progressive issues. Reform happens bottom up. And I have known since I was quite small that speaking out of turn will get you beat up.

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