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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,613 posts)
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:20 PM May 2014

As Publishers Fight Amazon, Books Vanish

As Publishers Fight Amazon, Books Vanish

E-Commerce

By DAVID STREITFELD and MELISSA EDDY
May 23, 2014 7:24 am

Amazon’s power over the publishing and bookselling industries is unrivaled in the modern era. Now it has started wielding its might in a more brazen way than ever before. ... Seeking ever-higher payments from publishers to bolster its anemic bottom line, Amazon is holding books and authors hostage on two continents by delaying shipments and raising prices. The literary community is fearful and outraged — and practically begging for government intervention.

“How is this not extortion? You know, the thing that is illegal when the Mafia does it,” asked Dennis Loy Johnson of Melville House, echoing remarks being made across social media.

Amazon is, as usual, staying mum. “We talk when we have something to say,” Jeffrey P. Bezos, the founder and chief executive, said at the company’s annual meeting this week.

The battle is being waged largely over physical books. In the United States, Amazon has been discouraging customers from buying titles from Hachette, the fourth-largest publisher by market share. Late Thursday, it escalated the dispute by making it impossible to order Hachette titles being issued this summer and fall. It is using some of the same tactics against the Bonnier Media Group in Germany. ... But the real prize is control of e-books, the future of publishing.
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As Publishers Fight Amazon, Books Vanish (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves May 2014 OP
I have recently shifted my SheilaT May 2014 #1
It's a new world out there, we are just slow to change yallerdawg May 2014 #2
No thanks mindem May 2014 #3
Me, too. I neither have, nor want, an e-reader. It's real books for me. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #4
Resistance is futile. n/t yallerdawg May 2014 #5
E-books are a rip off mindem May 2014 #6
And one big worry is -- what happens if most books are e-books? truedelphi May 2014 #15
and your real book can't be censored... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #12
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t truedelphi May 2014 #16
Many authors will sell direct to you on the internet. yallerdawg May 2014 #7
Publishers are begging for government intervention?!? HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA! truedelphi May 2014 #8
If you buy eBooks, please consider getting them through an independent bookstore RufusTFirefly May 2014 #9
I happily search my library for ebooks BrotherIvan May 2014 #10
A predictable problem with monopolies Doctor_J May 2014 #11
this sucks, I had no idea! bettyellen May 2014 #13
"Hachette Pre-orders 30% Off Online!" from Books-A-Million -- coincidence ?? eppur_se_muova May 2014 #14
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. I have recently shifted my
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:25 PM
May 2014

Amazon buying habits from getting lots of books from them, to only buying used books from independent sellers. New books, if I want to buy them, I'll try to get from my local independent bookstore.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. It's a new world out there, we are just slow to change
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:29 PM
May 2014

We are losing newspapers, magazines, mail, telephones, televisions -- it's all smart phone and tablet, no paper.

Why fight the future? We need trees to eat the carbon dioxide.

Newest technology, hands-free texting with your phone reading the text to you! (Alexander Graham Bell - "Say what?&quot .

mindem

(1,580 posts)
3. No thanks
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:40 PM
May 2014

I like the look, feel and smell of real books and nothing will ever change that. I don't care what Amazon or any other giant corporation dictates.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
6. E-books are a rip off
Wed May 28, 2014, 04:16 PM
May 2014

Why should a person pay the same price for a paperback stored in Amazon's cloud vs. a physical book that becomes an asset. It doesn't cost as much to manufacture an e-book - it screams rip off. It is just another example of a corporation that has become too big and starts to call all the shots.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
15. And one big worry is -- what happens if most books are e-books?
Thu May 29, 2014, 03:34 PM
May 2014

Sooner or later, Kindle will be to reading an e-book as MS Windows 3.1 is to using any current day software.

Then what? I mean, you could spend a lot of money on e-books, and in fifteen years, not be able to read most of them.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. Many authors will sell direct to you on the internet.
Wed May 28, 2014, 04:28 PM
May 2014

Stephen King even offered it on an honor system, and did not complain about the money he made.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
8. Publishers are begging for government intervention?!? HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!
Wed May 28, 2014, 04:37 PM
May 2014

We publishers have already seen governmental intervention!

The very first thing the newly installed totally Dem majority Congress did in Spring of 2007 was to allow Giants like Time/Warner and Amazon to have lower and discounted postage rates - while raising the rates on small businesses.

So the only way my small publishing company makes money on some books is just to let Amazon handle it all. Yeah they take a higher percentage, but considering what this small business would pay in terms of shipping, it is all we can do.

This is known as fascism, Boys and Girls.

And now that Amazon has totally used its advantages to hold us publishers hostage, why of course it will! Why wouldn't it? Why else does it have lobbyists in the Beltway doing as they do?

This nation is done and over and stick a fork in it.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
9. If you buy eBooks, please consider getting them through an independent bookstore
Wed May 28, 2014, 05:32 PM
May 2014

Many independent bookstores now provide a way to buy eBooks through their store.

Most use Kobo instead of Kindle, which means you aren't encouraging Amazon's increasing domination (and you don't need a Kindle!)

As you might expect, the price is typically a little higher, but if you want to "vote with your wallet," consider that money well spent as it contributes to a business that actually cares about your community.

Here's are a couple of examples with relatively simple instructions.

The Ivy Bookshop
Bookshop Santa Cruz

Also, you can usually order books online through your local bookstore. Then, once they're ready, you can pick them up if you'd like instead of paying for shipping and further cluttering the planet.

If your community isn't fortunate enough to have its own independent bookstore, you can still order books online or download eBooks from another community's independent bookstore.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. I happily search my library for ebooks
Wed May 28, 2014, 06:34 PM
May 2014

Check them out for for 21 days. For physical books, check out bookfinder.com and you can see the price of every listing of your book, both new and used. That way you can see there is usually a better price at an independent place.

My greatest hope is that authors can someday find a way to self publish because publishing houses often screw them too.

eppur_se_muova

(36,290 posts)
14. "Hachette Pre-orders 30% Off Online!" from Books-A-Million -- coincidence ??
Wed May 28, 2014, 11:31 PM
May 2014
http://www.booksamillion.com/features?cat=bestsellers&ad=AD01405232

Personally, I prefer http://powells.com , the blue alternative to Amazon books. If Powell's doesn't have it, try to order direct from the publisher. I can't remember the last time I ordered from Amazon.
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