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(18,479 posts)Lots of kids get 22s
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)... a .223 is technically a .22 , just not a 22 rimfire.
formercia
(18,479 posts)Perhaps a Cricket single-shot with a pink stock might not have seemed as threatening.
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)color all "assault" style rifles pink, and no one will care!
plus, what redneck will buy a pink gun?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Still a firearm, but pretty normal first gun for a kid despite the 'tacticool' appearance.
My dad gave me a .30-06 about that age. Considerably less tacticool though, being a bolt action.
so they can shoot up signs?
Vandalize and kill small critters for fun?
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)at this family's house?
formercia
(18,479 posts)but it doesn't hurt to check.
I just don't like the idea of officials showing up without a warrant. There's too much of that going on Today.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)
...without the warrant you can say 'No' at the door.
formercia
(18,479 posts)"Mind if I come in?"
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)I would not be happy with social workers and cops in my house asking for anything.
but that's me.
i wouldn't have posted the picture on the internet either, so...shrug
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)it's not something I would have done. But if my son and I had been out squirrel hunting with it I could see posting pics of him holding his 'trophy' critters and the gun.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I think it was a waste of resources in this case, but you never know.
What upsets me is that the pinhead child welfare worker thought she had the right to demand access to the firearms without a warrant. She should fucking well know better.
The cops that accompanied her did everything by the book, good job on their part.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Now all this kid needs to do is hate the same things they hate and they can die happy.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Never went hunting with it.
Just paper targets, cans and bottles.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)I don't think David realizes just how demented these gun nuts have become.
Of course they have a 2nd amendment lawyer on call because they sit around thinking up ways the commie black guy is going to take their precious.
My goofy sister in law has a card she keeps in her wallet with a pre-printed "statement" to the police in the unlikely (read: please oh please let it happen) event she has to use second amendment solutions against a burglar. It has her lawyer's (probably some ambulance chaser who hang out a the range) phone number on it.
The card reads something like "I had to do what I had to do and I'm not talking without a lawyer. You, as someone who might use deadly force in your job, should understand bla bla bla, second, bla bla bla"
This is the same sister in law with gun stickers all over her car, gun stickers warning burglars, a lovely gun pointing in your face as her facebook pic, and nothing but guns all over facebook......
But she got upset when her niece took a picture of her gun. Doesn't want anyone to know she has guns.
She also thinks her brother (my partner) and I know too much because, get this, we could be tortured to reveal she has guns.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Under ours, torture is off the table.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I was pretty good at bring home dinner by the time I was a teenager. But I find this alarming because the gun is made to look like an AR. This is more "toy-like" than hunter-like, if a .22 can be called a toy version of a big gun.
I feel sorry for the kid growing up with that particular Dad though. We used guns for hunting, not for confrontational politics.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)know what is disgusting.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...who is the republican pig, the little boy?
valerief
(53,235 posts)Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)jjewell
(618 posts)I think Dad is a troll...
BVictor1
(229 posts)If kids can't buy liquor or guns or cigarettes before a certain age, how come giving that banned item as a gift is legal?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)As for the comparison to liquor... Unclear. It is legal while under adult supervision. Specifically so. (for the firearm)
I do wonder if the law allows leeway for things like giving your kid a sip of champagne out of your glass on new years eve, etc.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)to use a firearm. There is no way for a minor to use (consume) liquor. Although I do wonder if, for example, a minor could own (maybe inherit) a valuable investment type liquor.
I can't see the banned item....??
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)and even a right of passage to many people. When I was growing up in a small town in northwestern PA - 12 was the normal age to go hunting for the first time and the first day of buck season was treated as a holiday - it always came on the first Monday after Thanksgiving - schools were closed, factories were closed and so were a lot of businesses - I didn't know until I was a bit older that the first day of buck season was not a national holiday
markpkessinger
(8,396 posts)I grew up in north central PA (Clinton County), and for us, too, the first day of buck and doe seasons were school holidays. I mean, they could have opened, but close to 50% of students AND faculty would likely be absent, so what was the point? My dad and brother were both hunters, and at age 12, after attending the requisite hunter safety course, I, too, hunted for the first time. (I hunted for four years before deciding I really just didn't care for it all that much.) I grew up in a household where there was an assortment of rifles and shotguns. But lest anybody get the wrong impression, we were not a bunch of gun nuts. The guns we had were were kept securely locked away, and the ammunition was stored separately in an antique safe that only my parents had the combination to. My father drilled gun safety into us, to the point that we would get into trouble if he saw us so much as pointing even a toy gun at another person. And our family was fairly typical of most families in that town.
My uncle, Mark H. Kessinger, for whom I was named, died when I was 10. I inherited from him a .22 caliber, pump action rifle that had originally belonged to my great grandfather, who passed it on to my uncle. (It held something like 16 rounds in the magazine.) But until I was about 16, except for when we were hunting, I was only permitted to handle and/or shoot that gun, or any other gun, under my father's direct supervision.
Now, I fully support the various proposals for gun regulation, including the assault weapons ban, the large-capacity magazine ban, the background checks, etc. But i have to say, a lot of the pearl clutching that goes on about stories like this is simply ridiculous.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)tomorrow. But that is not possible. One has to face reality about what is changeable and what is not. And to be fair, the homicide rate and violent crime rate in small town and rural America is quite low. Granted the nationwide ability to acquire guns rather easily slips past the confines of the rural and small town areas and into the major metropolitan areas where homicide rates and violent crime rates are much higher. Still - rightly or wrongly- and personally I think wrongly small town and rural America are not going to give up their guns. A just and lasting peace will rein supreme in Jerusalem before those folks abandon their gun and hunting culture.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Little Dick or Jane, smiling happily, posed with their camos, a rifle, and dead deer with headlines of
Lil Bubba Smith, son/daughter of __________, killed his/her first deer this week".
None of the guns looked like the one in the OP, tho.
Tanta
(42 posts)They are off in LA LA Land.
They are saying police RAIDED this house.
A buddy of mine sent me a video of Megyn Kelly on FAUX and this in a message:
"All news institutions biased reporting aside when you start to give up constitutional rights who's to say where to stop? We are seeing the government bully people into submission while at the same time not knowing the law."
I was like...hmm...ok...let me look again into this story. At no time I think their rights were trampled on.
Do I think the police overreacted? Yes, but that does not discount the fact that AGAIN I see this crap being twisted by the other side and people are buying it.
I went to this website:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/03/20/family-says-new-jersey-overreacted-to-boys-gun-photo-on-facebook/
CBS Local in Phili and it didn't have the word RAID in it at all and it didn't have any word of a raid at all, the same with Pakman who I am sure got all of his information from this article I just posted.
Damn, I swear...what the hell...