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Related: About this forumThe Shortest PSA On How To Handle Drunk Girls Passed Out On Your Couch
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)a real man.
Wonderful....
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)What also is great is that will probably help the guy get laid, by women who are in control of their faculties.
Yeah, cuz that's the real reason to treat women with respect - so you can "get laid "!
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...sure the other reason is because it's the right thing to do.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BTW: Use care, some women wake up swinging claws like a cat.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)She got totally plastered, puked over herself, and had to be literally held over the toilet so she would not drown.
So he had to take her to the shower and hose her down, then wrap her in blankets and put her to bed.
The other girls in the group were so grossed out they could not, or would not, help. They just stood by and watched mesmerized.
And it wasn't even his date.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I'd take her to the hospital. Difficult to tell when alcohol poisoning is acute. I am not a doctor and I do not play one on TV. If I see someone insensate and vomiting, it's time for the ER/911.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)But this was not at my place.
This group of high school kids had pitched in and rented a hotel room to use for the after prom party.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Just offering an observation/option for the peanut gallery. Lots of people form snap judgments about people stumbling drunk or worse, when the person is actually in need of assistance, and those opinions can block the correct course of action.
Afterwards when the worst happens, 'we had no idea' gets thrown around a lot...
SunSeeker
(51,552 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)When you are passed out and puking, you have alcohol poisoning. If she had died, someone would have asked him that question; he may have gotten into trouble. I have told my boys drunk people + puking in your domicile = hospital time. It is the safe thing to do.
Lucky Luciano
(11,255 posts)If that is true, then every college town hospital would have overflowing ER rooms from Thursday to Sunday.
Hospital time is probably drinking twice the amount be puking and passing out.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,255 posts).30 is about a net 15 drinks where net means subtract one drink per hour due to your body metabolizing. Most people i saw that were passed out in their bed had much less.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)Every weekend two to four kids were brought to ERs by ambulance, hovering near death, from binge drinking. That's just one college - Worcester has 11 major schools.
The ERs are always busy with alcohol poisonings. Even with medical attention, a few freshmen/women die each year.
It's a huge problem on and off campus., these kids don't realize that drinking even 3 or 4 beers too quickly can kill a person of small stature with no previous exposure to alcohol.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)As I said, she wasn't even his date. Nor was he drinking, nor was he the one who supplied the alcohol.
You ask a lot from a teenager. Be glad he didn't just step away and said "not my problem" like the rest of the group, including the girl's date.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)If someone is truly "passed out" , i.e. unconscious and vomiting, it is a life threatening situation. Don't you know anyone who passed out and died choking on their own vomit? I know of a handful of people who died that way.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Yes, it is good to know the signs and symptoms of intoxication. Not just alcoholic intoxication but others as well.
The advice you are conveying is sound, though the delivery is a bit off putting.
Instead of saying "he should have done X", perhaps the same advice can be phrased: "the best course of action in these cases is X".
Expressed in this way one is rendering an opinion on a situation and not passing judgment on the person who, in any case, is unable to go back in time to alter his or her choices.
Since the event I related which happened over 15 years ago, I have been confronted with a similar situation where a cousin of mine woke me in a panic because her daughter (my niece) was acting erratic and incoherent. I knew enough by then to recognize symptoms of intoxication and recommended we take her to the hospital, which we did. She was in fact very intoxicated and underwent treatment.
But that's yet another story.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)I do have one bit of advice for your son though...Anytime where he finds himself in a situation where a girl needs to be taken care of make sure he does what he needs to do as long as he has others with him...Preferably other girls. Being alone with a drunk girl for the period of time needed to do the right thing could leave him open to false claims...And in my one bad experience it was not the girl I helped who insinuated I was taking advantage of her it was other girls at the party...The girl I helped fully trusted me & knew I would never hurt her...But it did open my eyes!!
This will prevent him from being the victim of any false accusations that may be hurled his way.
If no other girls will at least help by staying with him & the girl then I would do what others here suggested & take her to the hospital or call for medical help. This way he knows the girl is cared for & he does not leave himself exposed for any false claims.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)The other girls remained there but could only watch; they could not deal with the ickyness of handling a person covered in her own vomit.
All of these kids, including my son, were foreign exchange students at the time, from Europe and the former Soviet Union. The girl was from Spain. Had the authorities been involved, the girl would probably have been deported in disgrace. There is no telling how the families of the other kids might have reacted to a scandal of that magnitude. Probably several of them would have been sent home as well.
But that's a whole other story.
Fortunately, the girl and the other kids vouched for my son and he was held blameless of the whole affair. The girl was disciplined by her host family and the sponsoring organization, but not to the extent of sending her packing. She finished her year and then went home.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)It would be a shame had she got sent home...It is a mistake most teens make at some point in their experimentation with alcohol & partying. They should be disciplined for drinking if the are under age plus they could use some constructive criticism from an adult as well...About the hazards of binge drinking especially for young girls (women).
I am sure you are a very proud Mom...I know if I was lucky enough to be able to have kids (a son) who handles himself in such a mature manner I would imagine there would be no better satisfaction as a parent to know you have such a well rounded young man.
There sure are a lot of people giving your son advice on what he "should" have done.
I would just like to say Thank You for teaching him to be respectful and to be helpful. Sounds like you raised a real winner.
I think our community is a bit geeky and always focused on finding ways to do things better, which can be irksome at times though it is well intentioned.
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)she was semi conscious, been drinking her parents liquor, had puked it up and was a mess.
I put her in the shower, cleaned her up best i could.
i tried to put some fresh clothes on her, but she was just to floppy, so I put her to bed.
tried to clean the puke up, but almost puked myself, so didn't a very good job with that.
then I high tailed it outta there before her parents came home.
it was damned close!
saw them driving up as i rode my bike home bout a half mile away...lol
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)THAT... is the message that needs to be sent, received, and embraced.
kimbutgar
(21,147 posts)I have been inebriated a couple times in college and my friends took care of me like I took care of them in similar circumstances.
Solly Mack
(90,765 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)The only thing I'd maybe add would be a bucket next to the table.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)and making sure the person is laying on their side, like in this video.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Maybe a few newspapers under the bucket, if the carpet is a quality one, too!!!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Women LOVE guys like this guy. He's cute, too!
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,255 posts)wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)... hair clips.
MsPithy
(809 posts)with a rubber band or piece of string.
basspro1o1
(13 posts)This would make a Great Educational Video for the Stuebenville Ohio School District! Hell ALL School Districts.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)on her.
Then I watched it.
Yes, real men do treat EVERYONE with respect.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)thank you.
ajk2821
(89 posts)The girl was someone I was interested in and who was interested in me. We had gone out with friends, but she got drunk really fast. I stayed sober. Drove her to our mutual friends house. Walked her to bed, put two huge glasses of water next to her, covered her up, placed large trash can next to her, went to living room and fell asleep on couch.
Seems like a no-brainer there. Sadly there are way too many people with less than no brains out there.
2naSalit
(86,604 posts)is awesome!
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)trocar
(243 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I think it's important for both male and female students to see. Even if they are not directly involved, they need to be aware if they see a woman being assaulted they should do everything possible to stop what is happening rather than blow it off as "someone else's problem". It should be everyone's problem.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)even if it stops one kid from taking advantage of a drunken girl, it's worth it.
klook
(12,154 posts)Pretty simple.
MsPithy
(809 posts)Spent many nights like the girl in the video. No boy ever touched me inappropriately, ever. (except for all the mutually agreed upon fucking)
Hekate
(90,681 posts)Now that's the kind of PSA I would love to have all over the TV.
Remember the Summer of Love? San Francisco with flowers in your hair? I was not there, but my hippie brother was. He told me about sitting on the curb with a tripped-out and very underage girl, just talking to her until she came back from wherever her mind had gone and was able to find her way back home to mama.
Yeah, that is what a "real man" does.
Thanks for sharing this.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)yes INDEED
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)treat ANYBODY who is incapacitated for any reason. They aren't fair game.
(One caveat- if necessary, call 911 or take them to the ER)
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)K&R, bookmarked & Tweeted!
Thank you for posting!
PEACE
Politicub
(12,165 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)EC
(12,287 posts)waste basket or something in case she needs to vomit.
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)I love that young man.
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)the rewards afterwards. the feeling that you protected someone that was vulnerable, doesn't that sound a lot better than abuse?
its a no brainer.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)What most men would do.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)Instead of putting a pillow under it, which is just going to make it worse.
Maybe just gently pull her ankles to get her head off the arm rest?
Sorry to be so practical, but those are the kind of thoughts that go through my mind when I see my wife's fallen asleep in front of the TV with her head in an awkward angle.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The way it's hanging down doesn't look comfortable. When he brought over the side table, I thought he was going to rest her arm on it.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)Simple and to the point.
mgardener
(1,816 posts)What a nice man. You might want to add a waste basket close by.
Thank you for making this.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... that some of the noisiest problem makers who are convinced that the attitude expressed in the PSA is completely nonexistent in ALL MEN have not posted on this thread.
Surprise!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)I found the hair twirl just a tiny bit creepy, though.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)your post. It was totally dignified and not in any way creepy IMO.