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The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) was proposed by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983,[1] to use ground and space-based systems to protect the United States from attack by strategic nuclear ballistic missiles. The initiative focused on strategic defense rather than the prior strategic offense doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD). The Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) was set up in 1984 within the United States Department of Defense to oversee the Strategic Defense Initiative.
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A few months later:
Modern Nuclear-War Deterrence Begins With Nuke Locks
By Tim Weiner Mar 24, 2013 3:30 PM GMT-0700
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In June 1983, at the National War College on the banks of the Potomac River, the first truly realistic nuclear war game took place. Tensions between Washington and Moscow were high that summer, higher even than anyone realized at the time. The war game was code-named Proud Prophet, and there were no stand- ins: Reagans secretary of defense, his chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and hundreds of senior military officers played themselves, holding in their hands the actual war plans of the U.S.
Bracken was invited to be its Thucydidean chronicler, in his words. He tells the story for the first time in his new book.
Armageddon
Proud Prophet began with political crises from the Mediterranean to the Pacific. It ended in Armageddon -- a catastrophe that made all the wars of the past five hundred years pale in comparison, Bracken writes. A half billion human beings were killed in the initial exchanges and at least that many more would have died from radiation and starvation. NATO was gone. So was a good part of Europe, the United States, and the Soviet Union. Major parts of the northern hemisphere would be uninhabitable for decades.
The American military leaders in this game were not crazy or suicidal. They were faithfully executing plans and strategies that a tight little circle of experts had been polishing and perfecting for a quarter of a century. The outcome shocked them. After Proud Prophet, the U.S. stopped rattling sabers and started talking sense about the prospects of nuclear war. In his next State of the Union speech, Reagan said: A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.
When you look at the war plans we had, and Ive seen them in outline, you react the way Reagan did the first time he saw them upon taking office. He became physically sick, Bracken writes. The briefing had to be cancelled and rescheduled.
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(Tim Weiner, a former reporter for the New York Times, has won the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award for writing on national security. He is the author, most recently, of Enemies: A History of the FBI. The opinions expressed are his own.)
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)the SDI would be the one stumbling block in every negotiation with Gorbachev.
We could have had a comprehensive nuclear reduction treaty in 1984 if not for SDI.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)If we don't have a (perceived) powerful enemy then we don't need to spend billions and trillions on national defense. If we don't spend all of that money on national defense, what do we have to be proud of as a country? Surely we couldn't be proud of our non-military accomplishments and stir feelings of patriotism if we don't have images of tanks, expensive aircraft, and big boats to marvel.
If the Soviets would have agreed to a SALT treaty in 1984 think of all of the buildup that could have never occurred.
Instead, we'd have to resort to things like our scientific prowess, our education system, and taking care of our own people as things to invest in and to be proud of. Any freedom-loving flag-waiving American surely could never be proud of stuff like that!
One of our accomplishments that I'm most proud of is the landing of astronauts on the mood. I know it was surrounded by military implications, but for mankind that was a huge step. Major scientific and explorational accomplishments like that should be the sorts of things nations are proud of. Not their ability to wage war decisively on people.
I read something quite a while back that, at almost any point during the cold war, had the Soviets launched any sort of attack with conventional ground forces that we would have replied by launching nukes. That was pretty much standard policy during all of the presidencies of that era.
mostlyconfused
(211 posts)The Soviets with their occupation of Eastern Europe had such an overwhelming advantage in conventional ground forces right new the borders of NATO countries that NATO would have had no effective conventional response to an attack on Western Europe.
mostlyconfused
(211 posts)Isn't there a fair bit of evidence that the US military buildup of the 1980's put enormous pressure on the Soviet economy and was one factor leading to its collapse? We then own some thanks to Gorbachev for allowing it to collapse without a military confrontation.
bananas
(27,509 posts)Soviet Leader: Chernobyl Nuclear Accident Caused the Collapse of the USSR
Posted on March 21, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog
Gorbachev Says Chernobyl Not Perestroika or Reagans Arms Race Caused the Break Up of the Soviet Union
Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachevs policy of open politics called perestroika is largely blamed for the collapse of the Soviet Union.
However, according to Gorbachevs 1996 memoirs, it was the Chernobyl nuclear accident, rather than perestroika (or Ronald Reagans increased arms spending), which destroyed the Soviet Union.
As Gorbachev wrote in 2006:
The nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl 20 years ago this month, even more than my launch of perestroika, was perhaps the real cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union five years later. Indeed, the Chernobyl catastrophe was an historic turning point: there was the era before the disaster, and there is the very different era that has followed.
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The Chernobyl disaster, more than anything else, opened the possibility of much greater freedom of expression, to the point that the system as we knew it could no longer continue. It made absolutely clear how important it was to continue the policy of glasnost, and I must say that I started to think about time in terms of pre-Chernobyl and post-Chernobyl.
The price of the Chernobyl catastrophe was overwhelming, not only in human terms, but also economically. Even today, the legacy of Chernobyl affects the economies of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus.
As weve previously noted, the risk of a nuclear catastrophe could total trillions of dollars and even bankrupt a country. Indeed, Fukushima may yet bankrupt Japan.
And any country foolish enough to build unsafe nuclear reactors based upon their ability to produce plutonium for nuclear warheads and to power nuclear submarines may go the way of the Soviet Union.
Especially if it is foolish enough to let the same companies which built and run Fukushima build and run their new plants as well.